ED: SoE
17th of October, 2019
Books mostly bring
academic concepts, so people think.
We will try to
engage with the question:
How can we
implement PoO?
The ruling class
has generated certain kind of knowledge.
Panini's Grammar:
Should we just reset it?
The question which
we can frame is:
There are certain
set of literature, reading list with any course. Its called a canon.
Sociology has
certain canon.
Chi: Understand
the canon, but there should be the freedom to debate it, analyze it. Its
developed over a period of time. There's no harm in questioning it. Can we
critically analyse the text? Say Piaget.
Any knowledge is
not the knowledge of the ruling class.
If you have the
eye to see that its been developed.
PF is not saying
that content is a political thing.
It may have value
but it has mark of his time
Can we read more
actively, not just passively.
Reading from your
perspective.
He hints are very
differnt
How do we read?
PF shares his
experience of reading in the class
Profs have this
problem. There was a time when students used to read a lot!
What matters is
how we read.
36 hours of
seminar for six pages on the Farmers of Brazil
Testimony,
transcript. He went on and on and on.....
By the end of the
class, one person walks to PF.
Notebook full of
notes.
When you read you
engage with reality.
You cannot just
have reflection.
Reading a text for
teaching has a different engagement
Interpretation...
Touching the body
with the gloves on.
The way teaching
and learning is happening...
Questions for
exams may not be the questions of the learner.
We are not
encouraging the learner to raise certain questions.
NCF 2005.
[I heard of the
herd which was hurt..]
Can we also create
some space where they can formulate...
Formulating
question
Field research...
Formulating a questions .....
We have essay
topics but we don't have research questions.
Existential
question..... Why am I here in this world? Answer this in six weeks. Bah!
Formulating
question... While we teach can we also formulate a question.
He is not against
conceptual understanding. We need to come to concept through experiences... If
concepts are not doing that...
He has a powerful
language to express things.
Ballet of concepts
The first daunting
task before a pedagoge is how can people discuss something which is relevant
for them, close to them?
What are the
methods to do the same?
He does not give
just one method.
One of the
critique is that he has worked with adults while most of the education happens
with children.
Teachers and
students being co-learners. There IS a kind of order.
In a conventional
setting, teacher is the traffic controller.
Teacher as the
traffic controller!!
Initiation,
Response, Feedback
Manipulation is
not a dialogue.
Changing this
order does not mean that there will be disorder.
Whatever you do ,
teachers do know the topic being discussed in the class.
Suppose teacher
has the facility to decide what s/he will be teaching....
Can we do
something
You are non
listening. - Joker
You need to know
your learner.
There is a canon,
teacher and the learner.
In the
conventional setting there is not dialogue.
Philosophers on
teaching.
You cannot call it
teaching if you are not considering teaching.
Knowlege
Teaching
Learner
There is no act
which can be called teaching.
You are completely
unaware.
You go to a hall
and you see a person playing sitar.
Would you define
it as teaching?
Teaching cannot be
just observed. You have to understand intent.
You cannot ignore
learner altogether. Think of any activity.
A person is
swimming.
Bringing an
element of the learner...
What's the
difference between concert and class?
Teaching can be
teaching only if someone is learning???
What is the
problem of over-emphasizing learner or
knowledge?
Child-centric
education
" I dont
teach subject, I teach the learner."
False generosity
We cannot deny the
learner.
Start from the
learner and move towards knowledge.
We need to start
from the concrete experience.
In Marxist
terminology, primitive accumulation.
Caste in Barmer
and Caste in Mandya
Caste antagonism
Lewis Dumont
Element of fear
Long working
hours, surplus value
Teacher's Training
Listening to a lot
of teachers.
The skill of
listening to people.....
Journalism
The idea of a good
life
Teacher - Student
relation, only oppressor and oppressed relation?
Follow the
parliamentary debate on RTE Debate
Why will a child
learn?
Sports teachers ?
Order and Disorder
Degree of order
Rigour
What text would
you like to read again and again?
Think something
which means to you?
Term Paper ( 2500
words )
10th of October, 2019
Grammar school: the school for the Elite English.
Doon school
Goodbye Mr. Chips
Second World War
Punishment, by the Principal
The idea of discipline.
What is the best way to discipline?
Pick one story/movie.
Don’t write: I liked the movie.
KORA / Kanopy?
Manpasand: There are two linguists. They do comparative study
of languages. They understand how languages develop.
Manpasand
Dosti
Hindi Medium
Tritiya Ratna by Jyotibha Phule
The Exercise Book by R.Tagore
Paulo Friere
Pierre Bordeu?
Gadhian Education: Buniyaadi Taleem
Alternative education
Education is one way is reproducing the inequality that
exists.
Education: transformative role.
Rethinking education
Microsociology
Education processes
Teacher’s identity
Student’s identity
Identity of a learner
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Literacy rate, access.
Caste influences the educational opportunity.
Stratification system: Class – caste – gender.
What is happening in the school? There is something
happening at the curricular which somehow helps upper class Hindu male to prosper.
There’s a way we design the textbooks.
The idea of caste, the way caste operates in the Indian
society.
The way we associate in public space.
Actually, this idea of civic society doesn’t work.
The idea of segregation, the villages have a geographical
boundary for the people of different caste.
This idea of …. Democratic deliberations …. Civil society
provides a kind of fulcrum.
In civil space school being one such institution…
Curricular designing… In that connection: by Kancha Illiah
Caste Language
School Education
The book is very interesting. Its written primarily to
provoke. He is saying that Dalit bahujans are not Hindus. They are different
from caste hindus. A student of education should read it.
Caste Language: Looking at language with the lens of a
caste.
When we say grammar
of language, we mean the rules that govern the sentence formation. How the subject
and verb agree with each other. Formal relationship with … Dalit language has a
very different grammar. Telugu will have one in which subject agrees with verb.
He is not talking about that grammar. He is not talking about the formal aspect
of grammar. Language is the medium through which we make sense of the world.
The language which Dalits speak is different from that of Brahmin.
Dalits speak production based language. Brahmins speak the language foucussed on
rituals and ceremonies.
There is a caste of shepherds. They know the names of different
sheep and terms related to wool production.
Its not the case that Dalit students do not have a sense of
classification but they classify different sets of objects.
The textbooks are tilted in favour of Brahmins.
He is primarily thinking of language as something through which
we make sense of the world.
There are lots of gods and goddesses in Dalits. The deities
are not patriarchal.
Lakshmi is considered as the wife of Vishnu.
Hindu Gods and Goddesses : Iconography
In Dalits there is no Swarga or Nark. No heaven or hell.
The spirit of the dead remain in the same world.
Textbooks are primarily designed with certain kind of
religious canon.
Certain versions of the Ramayana.
Idea of access.
Even now when we have hundred percent access to schooling…
Why do we have primary grade droputs…In graduation we see upper caste is
overrepresented.
What can explain the dropout.
Stories become framework on thinking.
Stories shape your worldview.
They become the template.
Chi: Marwari, different dialects.. It doesn’t even have a script.
They are forced to learn Hindi. How do you bring a balance and preserve both
the languages.
Dialects are dying.
Script and Language
There is no inherent link between language and script.
Dialects have value.
There are several ways of preserving the dialects.
People are not acknowledging that languages have value.
Language is just a medium, this is the popular thought.
Once you start acknowledging the value of language.
Par: English, stories of sleeping beauty,
It possible to have a representation of a culture in any
language.
Cultural representation can ben done in any language.
Democratising of language.
One big storyteller from Rajasthan:
Vijayan Detha
Every language has its own idiom.
Vikram Seth, Salman Rushdie, Jhumpa Lahiri.
The Hindi style of writing English gives it the Indian
flavour.
A Suitable Boy
The way canons …. The literary canons..
National movement was of bringing all the puranic stories.
Mostly Brahmins were represented.
Feminist scholarship
Dalit literature… Literary canon
When feminists …..Sociology is a very ‘masculine’ discipline.
How?
Need to include various voices. Importance of diverse
classrooms. Pedagogy which is dialogic, not just of listening. Pedagogy that is
dialogic.
Textbook
Classroom as site of production.
Education…
Stratification system influences text and talk/
A Boardroom meeting.
If a group of community are used to physical labour… Using
hands and minds together.. They are not used to sit in a place for even half an
hour.
Children from upper class where the primary function is ritual
and pooja… one kind of classroom will help only one set of students.
This is the general background.
Education as the Tritiya Ratna
Hari:
Struggle by the underprivileged.
In new times, in the universities, Indian societies are posing
challenges …
During the time of Throat Committee report, there was a girl
suicide because the bank did not find her credit worthy for her student loan.
This shows the non-transperency in the higher education in a
metro-politan university.
Talking back.
Murli Krishna M. , a
Swati Margaret
Feminist practices
Nageshwar Rao
Caste on Campuses.
Dalit Doctoral student:
Set of stories, conversations, statements, quoted by some
prominent people
English: elitist?
Vernacular: Humble
Provincialisation of higher education
Mandal Commission
Theorisation of caste
There is a woman named Kumud Pawade. She was not allowed to
learn Sanskrit. Especially Brahmin’s language. Someone taught her the laugnage.
She later comes to the university. There she find a lot of difficulties with
the faculties. During the interview session she heard that the interview panellists
made fun of her as a government sponsored Brahmin. When she got married to Mr.
Pawade, she got a job in the university, then she realises that she got a job
because of her husband’s name, and not because of her own identity. Then talking
about Kancha Illiah, then, Meena , “ I dream of an English, full of the words
of my language……
Macaulay…. Understanding was much more complex. He was a
person who thought about modern education. Education of giving everyone the
equal rights. Chandrabhan Prasad.
We are talking about caste without brining dalit experiences.
Can we bring feminist scholarship without brining women at the centre?
Experience: Hindrance? Important?
Theorising …. Delegitimising…
Experience has specific location.
Theory has the nature of generalisation.
How can you generalise based on specific experiences.
Kancha Illiah,autobiography of Dalit …
Power and Knowledge
The person associated…
There is no neutral position .
Canon.
European Canon:
Power means who has the right to name the word.
Who has the authority to cartegoriese?
Take the instance of migrants.
You’ll categories as …
Giving differential treatment to refugees and documented
immigrants.
Dalits: Harijans
NO neutral position.
You need to bring certain voices in the classroom.
You need to consider….Dalits as objects to be analysed.
Give opportunity to the group to analyse themselves. But this has theoretic
Gopal
THE CRAKED MIRROR
By Gopal Guru and Sundhar Sarukkai
You may think of experience in two ways:
Sundar
Rural Experience
Outsider participating in certain processes.
Tritiya Rata
Derogathroh,
The IEea
Looking at your expe
Ambedkar – Phule femiis
Indian Univesities Act
Examina
Paulo Friere
Gender and Education
Paulo Friere
24th of September, 2019
Make multiple
drafts to improve your writing. Even when you are writing creative pieces, make
multiple pieces. It comes from contemplative mind. Even when you write poems,
re-write it.
Assignment 2:
To connect
with what you are doing right now.
One part of
your reflection is relevant for SoE as well.
Annihilation
of Caste
Reading
classic pieces just to get a pulse of History. You sense the kind of tension.
So you know
the story of Ambedkar....
Annotations
are interesting.
Ambedkar was a
student of John Dewey.
Gandhi has
problem with untouchability. Gandhi had this standard practice. Gandhi would
ask the person to clean the toilet. That's his way of tackling the issue.
Untouchability
is not an aberration.
Louis Dumont,
speaking like a social scientist. Sounding neutral and impartial, because
you're not an activist.
Ambedkar was
an activist, with very strong academics. Read classic texts because of the
language they use.
Annihilation
of Caste:
Gender: lots
of papers by various authors.
School and
Society: Perspectives
Culture
Ethnicity and Education:
Spend time on
your term paper.
Assignment 2
and 3:
800 - 1000
words.
Just write
whatever is relevant for sociology. The third assignment..
Term Paper:
3000 words: Choose a topic of your interest. Book Review, a classic by someone.
Any theorist.
Assignment 3:
Movies and stories: Identify issues in the stories.
Movie: My Fair
Lady ( Manpasand; Dev Anand )
Goodbye Mr.
Chips
Story by
Tagore: Khata ( The Exercise Book )
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Inequality
that has certain permanence.
Structured
inequality.
If we
universalise education
Reflect based
on your experiences.
Policies that
cement inequality ??
The Dichotomy:
the policy was good but was not implemented properly.
The policy
must be grounded in the grassroot.
Be Little
Specific.
Small
observations??
Subtle things?
Education
intensifying the inequality
I have 'more'
right because I have been born in a higher family.
I have merit
and I have done well in the similar opportunity that you got.
Status is
social honour, has a relatively autonomous space.
Class.
Status and
class mobility.
Education as a
means of providing class and status mobility.
Middle Class
families send their girls to convent schools. In convent schools you learn how
to conduct yourself. Keep thinking about your experience.
Let the date
and evidence and logic speak.
Education
having a negative impact....
Education
created dissonance.
Capture
stories..
Living
conditions of the people
SC/ST
community of Mandya
Schools should
work as a counter-public.
Teachers
should be transformative intellectual.
One person,
one vote: Has this given equality to people?
NCERT Books:
Read them: Grade VI and VIII
Caste is a
system and has got lots of challenges.
Caste
Endogamy:
Caste as
identity:
Why has the
caste system got challenge?
What is a
system?
Hierarchy
Geographical
Segregation
Segregation is
just one dimension of class.
Hierarchy is
accepted as a central thing. Its considered as a given.
Caste System:
untouchables also feel that there are people lower than them.
Everyone feels
that there's someone lower to them.
Hierarchy is
central.
Keep the
hierarchy aside and it becomes caste identity.
For identity
there's difference of logic.
Identity:
Formulation :
Political reform: Caste is operating on the principle of difference.
Lots of
scholars, on going debate.
There were two
positions.
Modernisation
will eliminate modernisation.
JL Nehru:
Primary reality is class and caste is just a kind of system of justification.
Caste: Primary
reality in India??
Whether caste
***
Pollution and
Purity
Hierarchy in
India has got nothing to do with power. And that's the reason the caste system
works in India. It means that suppose a group has more political power....
History: Over
the years nothing has changed. Its a cognitive system. Schema Theory. Piaget.
Caste is not
the matter of justification. Caste is something based on hierarchy.
Romila Thapar
Power has
something to do with hierarchy
Why did
Buddhism and Jainism had such a great appeal?
Karnataka:
Lingayat...
Bhakti
Movement: challenging the idea of inequality, ritual hierarchy
Modes of
production
Ideological
system: caste
Caste,
intially superstructure
Caste,
infrastructure as well.
Caste is
generating some kind of economy. Caste is the principle on which the kinship is
based.
Caste is the
very basis of generation of economic system.
DG's position
is you cannot deny History to any place.
Classes and
economic production
Caste Class
Principle of
Operation
Education :
challenging the caste and class?
5th of September, 2019
- Did you learn anything about caste in SoE that you didn't already know?
- Regional variations
- Two extremes of castes could be similar: Non-Brahmin, Non-Dalit... There were certain ..
- In each state you have a dominant caste.
- Scripture's definition of caste : The Book View of Caste
- Field View of Caste
- How should one do sociology? Through scriptures? Through religion text?
- When you go and understand the system, you might realise the complexity of the system. This is the regional variation. Field View of Caste.
- Loise Dumont, who has presented book view of caste, has done research in Chennai. His generalisation is huge and very controversial. Homo Hierarchicus. Before homo sapiens , there were several evolutionary stages. Its like saying that humans are the people who believe in hierarchy. Hierarchy is so central to the world that equality is not a value. In some parts of the world, hierarchy is the most important.
- If you trust equality has no value.... Bhakti Movement, from south to north... The saints are saying that the God has created us equal... So in prayer and practice, we are equal. They were not challenging the economic inequality.
- Creating an interesting title to catch interest.
- Caste in very central.
- As caste is built on the idea of hierarchy, of pollution and purity...
- Hierarchy is high order value.
- When you get into value conflict you justify your values. For eg. A typical case presented by lot of people. You should be honest. This is a value. If you had to tell the whereabouts of a person who might get killed, you shall lie. Because we value human life more than honesty.
- Suppose there's a train. Train is supposed to go to track A. The driver realises that there are hundred people working on the track. On track B there is just one person, and he is sitting because he know that train wont come in track B. Driver cannot apply the brakes. In which direction should the driver go? Some Harvard prof tells this story.
- Hindi Movies: Shakti, Dileep Kumar, Amitabh Bacchan. Father is a police wala, son is a criminal... You have certain duty towards the country..... In Hindi movies, they pull the trigger and cry.
- Stratification has caste and hierarchy.
- The hierarchy ...... This is a huge claim based on a limited data.
- Differentiation leads to hierarchy
- Idea of purity => Idea of hierarchy
- Segregation
- Based on hierarchy you have access to various resources
- Advent of capital is not helping the situation.
- Methodological limitations... How do we explain the pervasiveness of caste? There are certain... It has been created by History. History has impacted the way ..... Who's gonna read Louise Domont ?
- Marital Status
- Jaati, the word for caste. Jaati is sometimes used as a generic term. Hum maanav jaati hain. They are using Jaati in a general sense... Parth Chatterjee, Nation and its Fragments ( Political Philosopher ). Kamala Kant is giving witness in a case. Lawyer wants to know the caste of Kamala Kant.....
- Anecdotes, dialogues, kinds of material
- Jati: Different
- Varna: An
- Indian Society: National Book Trust
- We often confuse jati with varna
- The purush, the first person, From Purush, he just sacrificed himself for this world. From the mouth and head came Brahman, Kshatriya from arms, Vaishya from thighs and shoodra from the feet.
- Something essential is difficult of change.
- Varna, why do we have varna?
- Jaatis came from varna
- Its very difficult to understand the varna from which jaati.
- Antyaja.
- Division of labour? Division for favour?!
- ??? : We were the Yajman, we had no choice?
- Theories of Origin: Devine origin, triguna theory, admixture.
- There are three kinds of gunas: Sattva, Rajas, Tamas.
- Sattava: Simple Food
- Rajas: Enjoying life, certain kinds of wine
- Rajputs of Rajasthan: Deer meat, wine meat..
- Rajas element: The kings and the ministers.
- Till 18th , 19th century, you avoided going aboard.
- Varna and Jaati: If we go by scripture view of jaati...
- In many Brahmin community they eat non-veg. In Kashmiri brahmin its a common practice to eat non-veg.
- Sattvic meat: without onion and garlic. JEIN Chicken
- Shakti Pooja
- For sacrificing, you sacrifice. Its like prasad.
- The Brahmins in Kashmir, West Bengal, UP; They are very different from each other. The acutal
- Endogamous....
- Caste......
- Occupational Specialisation, cultural influence
- Caste...
- Endogamy has been consistent and has never changed.
- They see cause in terms of pollution. Why not inter-caste? They're unclean! I've got a caste to maintain.
- Hypergamous marriages. Higher caste boy can marry a lowercaste girl.
- 'higher' caste OR caste which is considered higher.
- Single inverted commas
- Nationalism and patriarchy
- Love Jihaad
- Masuline.
- Class Mobility is okay in marriages but not caste mobility.
- Caste : everyone believes in it.
- ??? Tamas
- Admixture: Caste system emerged because of racial intermixing. Caste is not race.
- Changu: Which race do
you belong to man?
Mangu: 100metres and 200 metres. - Changu: What's your class?
- Upnayan Sanskar
- SC: Pancham Varna: Status of the group, recognised by the court.
- Ambiguities: Position of several caste group in Varna hierarchy is not clear.
- Occupational specialisation...
- Caste doing farming is not very clear in the History.
- Weath: A means to assert oneself.
- System operates at three levels
- Varna
- Caste Cluster
- Jati
- In Gujarat you have Patidars. .....
- Sub Castes.. Gotra
- Kanyakubja Brahmin from UP
- 20 Biswa
- Chaturvedi: Chaubey
- Dwivedi: Dubey : someone who has read two vedas
- 3 kannaujiya, 13 chulhe.
- Gotra
- Gotra exogamy
- Village exogamy
- Marriage: Priority
- Bend it like Bekham: Gurvinder Chhadda
- SC Dubey, Ghule(?)
- Jatis are endogamous units
- They are hierarchically graded.
- They invariably have a jati linked occupation
- Considerations of purity and pollution determine the interaction between the different units.
- Members of jati share a common culture.
- Caste Panchayat: Village level, intervillage level
- We will read Ambedkar once we come back.
- GS Ghude
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.
Mangu: Class Vth
3rd September, 2019
- Marx's 200
years.
-
- Caste should
have disappeared just tail from mammals.
-
- Matrimonials
; Caste ; Capitalism
-
- Caste is
another form of stratification.
-
- Caste based
reservation
-
- Sociologists
first step is to understand caste and class.
-
- Is it a
system? It its a system, it has different features. What do you require?
-
- If its a
class system, it means that various elements work together.
-
- Castes in
India. Different social groups. You are referring to a kind of
categorisation. The moment you say caste system, you are saying, various
elements coming together as a coherent system.
-
- You cannot
think of purity without impure.
-
- This creates
a system where each element supports each other.
-
- How to
differentiate between
-
-
Class
One
feature of class is mobility. Class is something that creates status
groups.
Class
is economic category.
Within
a class, there can be many status groups.
Has
relative autonomy.
Status
Social
Prestige
There
is ownership and there is social honour. Ownership of wealth and
resources. Your ownership gives you status.
In a
status, there can be many class group;
Status
group is more related to lifestyle, more related to consumption.
There's
a lot of performativity in status.
Group
-
- Caste is a
system......
-
- Sarabhai Vs.
Sarabhai
-
- Education
brings some kind of sta
-
- Base and
Superstructure....
-
- Ideas of
roots... Root Cause of everything in economic system.
-
- Types of
roots.
-
- The problem
with base superstructure model is that its very limiting. There are multiple places from where
things emerge.
-
- The class is
one root of status group. There are other sources of status groups.
-
- 3 types of
passports:
- Brown passport
- Govt. Passport
- Normal Passport
-
- How did
Mallaya escape with so many suitcases?
-
- Mobility
within caste system : only group, not individual mobility.
-
- There is a
farming community which becomes rich. They will be treated better by the
higher castes.
-
- Status group
and birth
-
- Caste: Only
If You're Born.
-
- Group
Mobility
-
- John Dewey,
the guide of Ambedkar
-
- Communication
is key in a society.
-
- Two Texts:
By Kurian,
-
- Caste is a
closed status group.
-
- Club
Memberships
-
- Delhi: India
International Centre
-
- Deewar
-
- ***
-
- Caste
-
- Separation:
- System of segregation
-
- Villages are
segregated.
-
- Agrahara:
land given to Brahmin by kings
-
- Read
Sanskara by Anand Murthy ( Movie by Girish Karnad )
- Awastha
-
- Hindi:
Premchand
-
- Biography:
- Marathi: Rich Dalit
literature
-
- Joothan: Om
Prakash Valmiki
-
- Segregation
is one aspect of caste.
-
- Segregation
doesn't create races. Societies in America....
- Segregation.
-
- Hierarchy.
-
- There is
hierarchy in the system. Different occupations for different castes.
-
- System has
got corrupted. Earlier, caste was just division of labour.
-
- Division of
labour -- aberrations -- untouchability
-
- Caste system
- division of labour.
-
- System in
itself if good but the problems are untouchability. Otherwise, its just
division of labour.
- Division of
labour and Division of labourer.
- MG: Go and clean the
toilet, Oh Brahmin.
- MG started 4 ashrams:
Phoenix, Tolstoy, Sabarmati, Wardha.
- In Phoenix, fight with
Karturba for cleaning the toilet.
- Hierarchy and separation
creates caste.
- Lousie Doumant: Homo Hierarchicus.
Controversial theory. This hierarchy is created on the basis of purity
and impurity.
- Castes in India
- What are the principles
that create caste? Certain things are considered impure and certain
things are considered pure.
- Basically, all the body
fluids are impure. Anything is impure if its coming from a body.
- During the periods women
were not allowed to perform pooja.
- There are purity
ritual...
- Certain community being
forces to do scavenging.
- Binary: 0 and 1.
- The system is programmed
with this purity and impurity. Extended ritual... What you can eat, what
you can accept...
- Food Habits:
Brahmins....
- Marx's 200 years.
- Caste should have disappeared just tail from mammals.
- Matrimonials ; Caste ; Capitalism
- Caste is another form of stratification.
- Caste based reservation
- Sociologists first step is to understand caste and class.
- Is it a system? It its a system, it has different features. What do you require?
- If its a class system, it means that various elements work together.
- Castes in India. Different social groups. You are referring to a kind of categorisation. The moment you say caste system, you are saying, various elements coming together as a coherent system.
- You cannot think of purity without impure.
- This creates a system where each element supports each other.
- How to differentiate between
-
ClassOne feature of class is mobility. Class is something that creates status groups.Class is economic category.Within a class, there can be many status groups.Has relative autonomy.StatusSocial PrestigeThere is ownership and there is social honour. Ownership of wealth and resources. Your ownership gives you status.In a status, there can be many class group;Status group is more related to lifestyle, more related to consumption.There's a lot of performativity in status.Group
- Caste is a system......
- Sarabhai Vs. Sarabhai
- Education brings some kind of sta
- Base and Superstructure....
- Ideas of roots... Root Cause of everything in economic system.
- Types of roots.
- The problem with base superstructure model is that its very limiting. There are multiple places from where things emerge.
- The class is one root of status group. There are other sources of status groups.
- 3 types of passports:
- Brown passport
- Govt. Passport
- Normal Passport
- How did Mallaya escape with so many suitcases?
- Mobility within caste system : only group, not individual mobility.
- There is a farming community which becomes rich. They will be treated better by the higher castes.
- Status group and birth
- Caste: Only If You're Born.
- Group Mobility
- John Dewey, the guide of Ambedkar
- Communication is key in a society.
- Two Texts: By Kurian,
- Caste is a closed status group.
- Club Memberships
- Delhi: India International Centre
- Deewar
- ***
- Caste
- Separation:
- System of segregation
- Villages are segregated.
- Agrahara: land given to Brahmin by kings
- Read Sanskara by Anand Murthy ( Movie by Girish Karnad )
- Awastha
- Hindi: Premchand
- Biography:
- Marathi: Rich Dalit literature
- Joothan: Om Prakash Valmiki
- Segregation is one aspect of caste.
- Segregation doesn't create races. Societies in America....
- Segregation.
- Hierarchy.
- There is hierarchy in the system. Different occupations for different castes.
- System has got corrupted. Earlier, caste was just division of labour.
- Division of labour -- aberrations -- untouchability
- Caste system - division of labour.
- System in itself if good but the problems are untouchability. Otherwise, its just division of labour.
- Division of labour and Division of labourer.
- MG: Go and clean the toilet, Oh Brahmin.
- MG started 4 ashrams: Phoenix, Tolstoy, Sabarmati, Wardha.
- In Phoenix, fight with Karturba for cleaning the toilet.
- Hierarchy and separation creates caste.
- Lousie Doumant: Homo Hierarchicus. Controversial theory. This hierarchy is created on the basis of purity and impurity.
- Castes in India
- What are the principles that create caste? Certain things are considered impure and certain things are considered pure.
- Basically, all the body fluids are impure. Anything is impure if its coming from a body.
- During the periods women were not allowed to perform pooja.
- There are purity ritual...
- Certain community being forces to do scavenging.
- Binary: 0 and 1.
- The system is programmed with this purity and impurity. Extended ritual... What you can eat, what you can accept...
- Food Habits: Brahmins....
29th of August, 2019
What is the process through which inequality gets
generated.
Today we will discuss Weber's notion of class. He has
different views on class and on stratification.
Society is primarily divided on class basis. But Weber
sees other aspects of stratification. There are other dimensions that stratify
society.
Desperate situation is not random.
If the system has to function, there needs to be
bargaining capacity in the hands of capitalists.
There are various ways to see democracy.
Is it because of capitalists?
The welfare system in Europe and India, though here,
its a mess!
The logic of capital somewhere governs.... There are
other pressure groups. You come up with something like Shmoo. It represents the
welfare system. What is the primary basis on which he decides the class?
Ownership and non-ownership of means of production.
ONWER and
NON-OWNER.
By commodifying labour power they sustain the
production.
This puts the CEO of the company and the worker in the
same group. Even the CEO is selling his skills, his intellectual labour power.
Assuming the CEO doesn't own anything, doesn't have any shares. We are putting
various kinds of people in the same group.
News: Gurgaon, Maruti Udgoy. 2013-14. The HR manager
was killed by the workers!
We say the white collar professionals belong to the
middle class. This middle class is something which most of the policies are
geared to. The size of Indian middle class was growing. More and more people
were becoming a part of the middle class. This gave them hope. India's
population now is 1.25 billion. Just calculate 20% of this number.
The marker producers saw a big hope in the Indian
middle class. Social groups buying their first car, bike, dining table...
Lifestyle keeps one thing coming after the other.
These were places where market was growing. Hence they
thought .. Will be a machine for growth.
Inequality and size of middle class has been growing.
If you read the chapter, Class Analysis, Class
Structure.
Erik brings
some ideas from Max Weber.
There's one porttion: The problem of middle class.
Weber has given some idea.: Stratificaiton system is
not completely dependent on class structure.
In term of class he says, class saves you life
chances. He is not saying that its going to be determined completely by your
class , but your chances in life is primarily dependent of class. Class is not
like a community. You don't always feel that you belong to one class. It's not
like living in a community. Class situation depends on the market situation.
Market means is the place where you sell your commodity. At certain point of
time, you have lots of mechanical engineers and suppose the salary of enineers...
Owner : land house, capital good
If you are getting rent, you will have a different
behaviour, if you are getting profits, you will have different behaviour.
Among skill workers, there are those who have certain,
specific skills.
Suppose you are a neurosurgeon.... You are rare.
There's a market which will reward you more. The bargaining capacity of the
neurosurgeon will be more than a paramedic. Once s/he joins a hospital, his/her
name also gets attached with the hospital.
Modern times... Work of a labour can be observed.
Only medical council can tell if a doctor was
negligient.
In medical cases, police and judge depend on the
Medical Council.
Its similar for teachers. Unfortunately its not being
realised in schools.
Some processes cannot be closely monitored.
What kind of skill set is the person selling?
What is the situation of the market?
In many ways, class situation is a ...
In 60s and 70s, till 80s a big market for Civil
Engineers. Then people started going for mechanical engineers.
Everybody wants to be an IT engineer.
RV, PES, Ramaiya: The colleges in demand. You cannot
even think of getting IT here.
A skill set in one...
You need to determine the labour power in terms of
skills and authority.
Authority means how much independent you are in terms
of taking decisions.
We know that CEO has lots of authority. The owner
transfers some power to the CEO. You have this annual package of ten crore
rupees.
The kind of jobs IT engineers do in India is manual
and process orientation.
You have build some trust with your existing CEO..\'
In Marxist term you are paying the CEO and the
Neurosurgeon a little higher than the market rate.
8 crore is the wage, 2 crore is the bonus
Wage in pure economic terms...
+
CEO 10 = 8 + 2
If its not profit, its rent.
In this case we are paying ren.t. You are getting
skills rent and loyalty rent.
This class is a contradictory class.s
In this case, the type of ....
With this group getting wage and rent, its a
contradictory class. Sometimes this gets complicated.
Apart from the package ,
If you pytting your mo...
Middle
For simple labour is
Today loyalty has become a value..
Its not about the wages but how you are getting it.
Petty Bourgeoise: Has capital just enough for
subsistence. Small shopkeepers..... Farmers with a small patch of land.
Marx says that the petty bourgeoise will vanish.
Capitalist: Hires labour
Petty bourgeoise : Doesn't hire labour.
Erik Olin Wright, Class Counts, Page-21
Non Skilled Managers don't sit in the policy matters.
Power Shift: Alvin Toffler - Managerial Revolution...
You need an expert who understands where to invests money.
Bureaucrats : Has one additional power, they have
legal protection, they have state power.
The state provides some legal power
***
If we look at the reality it s more complicated than
the framework.
Experts become expert managers because of the results
that they deliver.
How society works, everyone has a sense....
If you look at mobility, many don't think ..... Very
few... You don't need to job seeker, you should be a job creator... Being an
owner is too risky... In India education is a means of upward mobility in terms
of class.
Class Mobility.
In India education is another means for status
mobility.
If someone is earning well in business, s/he would
want his children to become IAS officer. By being an IAS officer you will be in
a different social / status group. This is more in the case of women. In many
places they want their daughters to be educated, so that they can get married
off to better families. Marriage Market ( as a metaphor. )
In India education if primarily perceived as a means
for class and status mobility.
Classes, Status group, parties are phenomena of
distribution of power.
For Marx, its a the production site.
Class is becoming an important part of stratification.
In many capitalist societies, wealth equates to
prestige. You may have wealthy h people in the city.
You have social prestige if you are a social worker,
pandit/ religious leader ,
Status group is a larger set, caste ..,.
We always the story of the poor brahmin.
Poor but morst
Your status doesn't depend on your wealth.
Wealth is not only thing that determines your status.
The society in Dravidian part for ....
All the non-...
You can pray... You have access to God.
From Ramanujacharya..........
Chant the God
In places like Rajasthan they created geneology ...
They started controlling resources.. They became wealthy... Aap toh Ra ke vansh
se aate ho.. Hence suryavanshi.. Hence the status of khsatriya.. Nobody in the
history of India was declared as a Brahmin.
Brahmins never declared any other groups.
These systems are linked to each other.
Party: group which has some power. Certain access to
power. We need to consider party separately. In this sphere you have some legal
authority. Difficult to imagine a politician with less wealth. The class has
authority to ....
Political Economy.
Who defines what is property? Legislative Authority.
Land was not a property. Its was a resource. Your position in politics depends on the kind
of wealth you have and the funding you can organise.
Within party , part of power comes from the wealth.
There are other sources of autonomy.
Classes, status group and parties have relative
autonomy. Things are other way round...
In India, education is also a means of status
mobility. Caste is not the only status group;
Small Talks...
Conceptual world... In actual empirical historical
world, what you want your children to become, why are spending so much on
education......
There will be some kind of status mobility.... It
gives you wings!
SOOCIAL CAPITAL..... Apart from status, you get social
capital.
Basically , education.....
Caste is a cruel and closed group. In order to break
this closed status group. Ambedkar felt education as emancipatory potential.
Education may not solve problems but will empower people.
Ambedkar wanted to practice law in Baroda but was not
allowed.
He saw that power comes from political groups.
Amb: You need to have political representation.
Read Erik's Class Structure and Class Analysis.
27th of August, 2019
Marxism
Ideas which Marx
presents are quite common place.
Absolute and
surplus value
Bourgeon
Class Structure
The way he talks
about profit, rent, socially necessary labour time...
The class
analysis is not very difficult.
But when he
tried to explain the whole process of production, he invoked a lots of ideas.
Haris: I can
connect things with my life.
Mari: Its like
Kerela.. Kerela is trying to do
something within constitutional framework... Kerela has diluted right to
property.
Somewhere we
feel, Marxism is either too easy or too hard. We all know that there are rich
people in the society and there are poor people in the society. We feel we
belong to the middle class. Rich and poor, every one recognizes.
Wipro Corporate
Office.. Wipro is a global company.. Sarjapura Road.... There's a blacksmith
who's still there.
There are big
company offices... What does Wipro do?
This blacksmith
disappear. He will either become a wage labourer. There's a high probability
that he might become wage labourer or become capitalist.
The Blacksmith
Start-Up. He can start a company. He will start packaging it and make it
available online.
The petty
bourgeoise. This class will disappear.
Pramod Laddoo.
He used to sell laddoo. From Bihar. Upward movement of that class.
Class of
capitalist: earning profit from surplus value, rent...
Track that
blacksmith.. Within few years.. He wont be able to sustain his land his means
of production.
Classical Marx
Theory.
Bureaucrats
consuming major surplus value.
Proletariat
Ideal of
proletariat is not well defined.
Marx Pamphlet:
Communist Manifesto
CAPITAL was his
seminal work, with which he was not very satisfied.
Counter
Intuitive
There are rich
and there are poor.
We had king and
we had paupers.
There were
always rich and poor.
Because people
have different capabilities.
If you are
religious, you may have a religious explanation.
If you are
secular, you'll think in terms of the explanation...
The five fingers
of the hand are not the same.
And this is so
evident that people....
Different
capacity..... Someone can read...
Classes are
formed by nature.
We see very
clear differences within the society.
What does it
mean? The first thing we need to undetst
Differences
doesnt necessary entail deficiency.
Strong ,
strength... How do you define a certain thing?
Difference
doesn't mean deficiency
Examples from
nature..
Go and talk to
your Grandfater, very soon you will come up with some kind of analogy.
Something is
socially, historically, culturally formed. The definition of strength.
We negotiate
Historical
formations of class
Similarity and
equality
Differences does
not lead to deficiency.
You may belong
to the class, but you may not be for the class.
In order to
transform a class, you require some kind knowledge.
Inequality is
....
Go and talk to
teacher!
Chandragupta
Maurya
There was some
scope of upward mobility.
There wasn't
another Changragupta Maurya.
In different
historical epochs there are different kinds of formations.
Different kinds
of class formations.
There are rich
and poor always in a society.
The rich in the
mideval society were different from rich
in the feudal society.
There are
different historical formations, class formations
Epoch.
Historical
Stages ( Epoch )
Class formations
You had slave
and slave master and they were associated with each other very differently.
Feudal lords and
serfs...
Bourgeoise and
Proletariat.
The key idea
which he invokes is how different social groups are on the basis of system
In different
historical stages you have different ways...
Means of
production... How different social groups are related to means of production.
The slave master
had complete control over the slave.'
Means of......
Means of
production
Relationships
You are not
hunter and gathereres. Ou
Control
productive power.
By
Letters by Nehru
to Indira Gandhi
Controlling the
female reproductive unit through monogamy/
Unlike slaves,
serfs had some control over his land.
But a serf could
not change the field on which he works.
The character of
Vibhishan.
Loyalty was the
biggest value in feudal system.
Freedom was the
biggest value in capitalism.
Contract. We all
are bound by contract. Marxism do...
One can take
initiative in the system, one can do a startup.
Relations of
production : value system
You had
relationships based on .....'
Freedom is the
biggest value. You can be your own guardian. You are freem
Now you don't
have o
Workers of the
world unite, you have nothing to loose.
Proletriat as a
class
The
jobs will be Bangalored!
Welfare State
Unemployment
money
Social Security
Disparity is not
an exception. Its there by very design. Conflict theory. Dependence on each
other is very much there but the interests are conflicting.
The capitalist
hates welfare schemes.
Putting people
in desperate situation.
Poverty in the
system.
People are poor
because the system works quite well.
Assuming that
nobody is altruistic, every class is rational, going by the rational choice,
Wealth Creators
and Job Creators
Bureaucrat
doesn't belong to any class.
Heggle Head
Common Sense
Eric
Proletariat
class is revolutionary class. This class is emancipatory class.
22nd of August, 2019
Why attendance
is so thin today?
Discussion on
the assembly
What did you
observe?
Kids are just
doing things as instructed.
What do your
observations tell you about the morning assembly?
They are just
following the system. They are just a part of the routine. Just following the
process.
Functionalist
purpose... Trying to tell them about the wider society.
In a lot of
ways, this is just a set format, and we are following it.
Structures,
structures, structures....
The young ones
are clueless...
Formats...
Format becomes
more important than the content. There is pattern, protocol..
You may find
this news reading activity in many places.
Maybe you can
see the presence of curriculum and hidden curriculum.
Format itself
becomes very important. Content.
Format is how
we are writing, content is what we are writing.
Lots of things
have format...
There are
rituals in religious practices, politics...
If you start
observing your school closely, you will realise ...
For sociology,
you need to observe those aspects of social life. The kind of things we are
discussing now ... Different ways of creating society ... We create one kind of
society in school, in the workplaces, in marriage parties, in army..
Observe how
people are coming together... Canteen, shopping mall, activities which guides
people, Hosa road junction...
Micro and
macro sociology... They complement each other... So, these school observations
and practicum have these opportunities.
You will come across several experiences... You shall be observed as an
observer. Just keep your eyes open, so that you don't full in the gutter. Keep eyes open on other occasions also.
Observe how
people are coming together, you know what I mean. People sketching, they can do
it in a closed space also. They can have good study of gesture, posture... They have training in
art. On the spot sketching is an important aspect of any fine art.
Observing
morning assembly, classroom... Co-ordination in the playground...
NEXT TASK:
Knowing about parental expectations, child ambitions...
Recap:
Stratification:
To describe the inequality between the people. It occurs in gender, age,
religion...
Society is
seen as the consistent
Why is
understanding social stratification important for the students of education?
Stratification
impacts the schooling process...
What kind of
content will be taught, the curriculum..
Example of
Kanchalaiya...
What learning
names of Gods is important that learning the names of plants...
The content of
education is shaped by social stratification.
Even content
of science may get some influence of social stratification.
India has a
rural population.... But the science curriculum address more so the industrial
science....The money being pumped into industrial research is more...
When we think
of worker, we think of the male.
Tools,
spade...
P Sainath, he
is a rural reporter for the HINDU. He redefined journalism. PARI (?)
Agricultural
implements...Sickle and Hammer...
Where is
R&D the maximum?
India had IIT
in the 50s and 60s... The kind of things
they learnt weren't present in India, hence they migrate...
How content of
education gets effected by stratification?
The process of
education also gets marred by stratification.
Memorising
could be one way of learning... Doing things, hands on, minds on may be
effective for other people.
The sociality,
social form that we have in school, is closer to the society.
Its also
institutional design. You have your school system stratified... Class system in
places like Bengaluru... Categories of schools... Schools mimic the class
system in India...How are policies being framed.
Why
do we have IITs and IIMs, who compete with world class institutions, but we do
not have any high quality of teacher education? NO WORLD CLASS TEACHING DEGREE :(
Focussing on
merit...
Education is
also creating stratification.
IT Revolution
effect of teaching in English...
Education has
a potential to challenge stratification and this is on the things which Talcot
Parsons says...
Education
provides option for social mobility....
Labelling...... Promoting fixed mindset...
Tracking
students their growth....
What keeps
this social stratification in place?
What is the
key feature of
What are the
structures that keep the rich rich and the poor poor?
In the
Communist Manifesto, the Bourgeoise
created platform for themselves..
Does wage
labour
In bourgeoise
society ... Increase accumulated labour ?
The working
classes do not get anything to increase their asset.....
Any class
system is dependent on the surplus value.
Surplus value
means that society has adequate production for subsistence and extra...
Something to accumulate...
In any system
of classes operating....
Reproducing
ourselves... Maintaining our status and lifestyle..
Socially
necessary labour time..... Produces enough to sustain human race... Surplus
value ....
Without
imagining surplus value, you cannot imagine city.
In a city you
have expert, specialised professional...
City = Surplus Value
Until the
labour power is working more than the surplus value time, there won't be surplus value.
If the slaves
are just producing for themselves and their master, they may not create surplus
value.
Surplus value
, can it be created only by exploitation of labour power?
In different
class systems, you have different notions of surplus value.
Just by
directly controlling the slave, you can create surplus value.
The legal
system doesn't allow the slave to negotiate.
Gradually, one
may realise that slavery is not the most efficient method of surplus
production.
If you're not
giving the slave any kind of freedom, you may not get the optimum output.
There's no
bonus, no incentive.
In slavery
there's generation of surplus value.
Labour theory
of Value...
Ricardo....
Value can only be added through labour. Other things are being provided by
nature.. Just by adding your labour, you are creating value. And this is valid
also for slavery...
Some societies
can go beyond and create surplus value.
In feudal
system, there's different way of creation of surplus value.
The first line
of Communist Manifesto....
Hiterto (So
far)
Marx doesn't
consider primitive community as History.....He had certain utopia of
communism... Class struggles comes from the idea of appropriation of surplus
value. Though this system produced surplus value.. Aristotle.. Socrates... They
did philosophy.... Greeks... Greek slaves had some rights... They couldn't
participate in politics...
The person
working hard had no purpose to innovate...
Struggle
between Slaves and their Masters.... Spartacus ( Novel ), one who struggled
against slave masters....12 years a slave... In feudal system, the feudal
system attached labour to land. Serfs were given some land on which they used
to farm and pass the surplus to the feudal lord. The serfs were associated with
land.
Here, serfs
were different from the slaves. They could not go and work with other family.
Bondage
slavery ( Bandhua majdoori )
Biggest value
which defined everything... Idea of Loyalty. Being loyal means being a nice
person. Loyalty, not freedom.... In different parts of the world... Europe...
Communist Manifesto started with how new classes emerged from the feudal
classes.. How did the bourgeoise emerged? There was trade happening? The trade
happened which created guilds and wealth. These merchants started influencing
the politics... The Bourgeoise made alliance with the big powers.. East India
Company ( Who started it, by the way? )
The people
running the EIC were business people, but they were backed by the feudal lords.
Once they started setting up colonies, they got rich. Then the feudal classes
started getting rich... NETFLIX .. Beecham House?
Beechu\am was
one EIC army officials. With some dispute he didn't like the way EIC worked. He
bought a house in Delhi. But Mughals started doubting EIC officials. This
class, i.e. The Bourgeoise displaces feudal lords from the politics.....
Marx spent his
entire life understanding capitalism... He is attempting to understand a grand
theory.. This new class emerged from the previous classes.
Business
community....
" This
bourgeoise class revolutionised everything. " The part of the revolution
was that they were doing business. They were a part of the exchange. Earlier,
market was smaller than society. Now market and trade, kind of, sort of,
dictate life as they have become as big as the society.
In this
system, the idea of subsistence economy doesn't go well. Everything will be
commodified. Commodity is the object that has a use value and an exchange
value. Every single thing becomes a commodity. The primary function in a
capitalism society is buying and selling. Either you are a capitalist, you have
means of production, you will buy labour power. You will be selling and getting
money. If you are labour you must sell your labour power. If you are a weaver,
you cannot sustain youself, as the big automatic looms produce faster and
cheaper.
With this
buying and selling...
The kind of
inequality was huge.
Alam Shah ,
Beecham house.
Surplus value
In post world
war they distributed surplus value among the workers.
With this idea
of surplus value, you will get the text... Its not a traditional idea of
class... Your location with means of production...
What creates
the class system?
Ask Questions
!! :)
Who is poor
and who is rich?
Class is more
visible than caste.
What creates
these class system?
Marx is being
discussed because of coherency of ideas.. Some of his ideas were challenged.
Use Value:
Something is useful for you.
Gold has some
use value, but lot of exchange value.
Capitalism is
pushing everything to have exchange value. Use value is primary.
Capitalism
commodifies things.
For each
activity you need to go and buy.
For each and
every human activity society is commodified.
Why attendance
is so thin today?
Discussion on
the assembly
What did you
observe?
Kids are just
doing things as instructed.
What do your
observations tell you about the morning assembly?
They are just
following the system. They are just a part of the routine. Just following the
process.
Functionalist
purpose... Trying to tell them about the wider society.
In a lot of
ways, this is just a set format, and we are following it.
Structures,
structures, structures....
The young ones
are clueless...
Formats...
Format becomes
more important than the content. There is pattern, protocol..
You may find
this news reading activity in many places.
Maybe you can
see the presence of curriculum and hidden curriculum.
Format itself
becomes very important. Content.
Format is how
we are writing, content is what we are writing.
Lots of things
have format...
There are
rituals in religious practices, politics...
If you start
observing your school closely, you will realise ...
For sociology,
you need to observe those aspects of social life. The kind of things we are
discussing now ... Different ways of creating society ... We create one kind of
society in school, in the workplaces, in marriage parties, in army..
Observe how
people are coming together... Canteen, shopping mall, activities which guides
people, Hosa road junction...
Micro and
macro sociology... They complement each other... So, these school observations
and practicum have these opportunities.
You will come across several experiences... You shall be observed as an
observer. Just keep your eyes open, so that you don't full in the gutter. Keep eyes open on other occasions also.
Observe how
people are coming together, you know what I mean. People sketching, they can do
it in a closed space also. They can have good study of gesture, posture... They have training in
art. On the spot sketching is an important aspect of any fine art.
Observing
morning assembly, classroom... Co-ordination in the playground...
NEXT TASK:
Knowing about parental expectations, child ambitions...
Recap:
Stratification:
To describe the inequality between the people. It occurs in gender, age,
religion...
Society is
seen as the consistent
Why is
understanding social stratification important for the students of education?
Stratification
impacts the schooling process...
What kind of
content will be taught, the curriculum..
Example of
Kanchalaiya...
What learning
names of Gods is important that learning the names of plants...
The content of
education is shaped by social stratification.
Even content
of science may get some influence of social stratification.
India has a
rural population.... But the science curriculum address more so the industrial
science....The money being pumped into industrial research is more...
When we think
of worker, we think of the male.
Tools,
spade...
P Sainath, he
is a rural reporter for the HINDU. He redefined journalism. PARI (?)
Agricultural
implements...Sickle and Hammer...
Where is
R&D the maximum?
India had IIT
in the 50s and 60s... The kind of things
they learnt weren't present in India, hence they migrate...
How content of
education gets effected by stratification?
The process of
education also gets marred by stratification.
Memorising
could be one way of learning... Doing things, hands on, minds on may be
effective for other people.
The sociality,
social form that we have in school, is closer to the society.
Its also
institutional design. You have your school system stratified... Class system in
places like Bengaluru... Categories of schools... Schools mimic the class
system in India...How are policies being framed.
Why
do we have IITs and IIMs, who compete with world class institutions, but we do
not have any high quality of teacher education? NO WORLD CLASS TEACHING DEGREE :(
Focussing on
merit...
Education is
also creating stratification.
IT Revolution
effect of teaching in English...
Education has
a potential to challenge stratification and this is on the things which Talcot
Parsons says...
Education
provides option for social mobility....
Labelling...... Promoting fixed mindset...
Tracking
students their growth....
What keeps
this social stratification in place?
What is the
key feature of
What are the
structures that keep the rich rich and the poor poor?
In the
Communist Manifesto, the Bourgeoise
created platform for themselves..
Does wage
labour
In bourgeoise
society ... Increase accumulated labour ?
The working
classes do not get anything to increase their asset.....
Any class
system is dependent on the surplus value.
Surplus value
means that society has adequate production for subsistence and extra...
Something to accumulate...
In any system
of classes operating....
Reproducing
ourselves... Maintaining our status and lifestyle..
Socially
necessary labour time..... Produces enough to sustain human race... Surplus
value ....
Without
imagining surplus value, you cannot imagine city.
In a city you
have expert, specialised professional...
City = Surplus Value
Until the
labour power is working more than the surplus value time, there won't be surplus value.
If the slaves
are just producing for themselves and their master, they may not create surplus
value.
Surplus value
, can it be created only by exploitation of labour power?
In different
class systems, you have different notions of surplus value.
Just by
directly controlling the slave, you can create surplus value.
The legal
system doesn't allow the slave to negotiate.
Gradually, one
may realise that slavery is not the most efficient method of surplus
production.
If you're not
giving the slave any kind of freedom, you may not get the optimum output.
There's no
bonus, no incentive.
In slavery
there's generation of surplus value.
Labour theory
of Value...
Ricardo....
Value can only be added through labour. Other things are being provided by
nature.. Just by adding your labour, you are creating value. And this is valid
also for slavery...
Some societies
can go beyond and create surplus value.
In feudal
system, there's different way of creation of surplus value.
The first line
of Communist Manifesto....
Hiterto (So
far)
Marx doesn't
consider primitive community as History.....He had certain utopia of
communism... Class struggles comes from the idea of appropriation of surplus
value. Though this system produced surplus value.. Aristotle.. Socrates... They
did philosophy.... Greeks... Greek slaves had some rights... They couldn't
participate in politics...
The person
working hard had no purpose to innovate...
Struggle
between Slaves and their Masters.... Spartacus ( Novel ), one who struggled
against slave masters....12 years a slave... In feudal system, the feudal
system attached labour to land. Serfs were given some land on which they used
to farm and pass the surplus to the feudal lord. The serfs were associated with
land.
Here, serfs
were different from the slaves. They could not go and work with other family.
Bondage
slavery ( Bandhua majdoori )
Biggest value
which defined everything... Idea of Loyalty. Being loyal means being a nice
person. Loyalty, not freedom.... In different parts of the world... Europe...
Communist Manifesto started with how new classes emerged from the feudal
classes.. How did the bourgeoise emerged? There was trade happening? The trade
happened which created guilds and wealth. These merchants started influencing
the politics... The Bourgeoise made alliance with the big powers.. East India
Company ( Who started it, by the way? )
The people
running the EIC were business people, but they were backed by the feudal lords.
Once they started setting up colonies, they got rich. Then the feudal classes
started getting rich... NETFLIX .. Beecham House?
Beechu\am was
one EIC army officials. With some dispute he didn't like the way EIC worked. He
bought a house in Delhi. But Mughals started doubting EIC officials. This
class, i.e. The Bourgeoise displaces feudal lords from the politics.....
Marx spent his
entire life understanding capitalism... He is attempting to understand a grand
theory.. This new class emerged from the previous classes.
Business
community....
" This
bourgeoise class revolutionised everything. " The part of the revolution
was that they were doing business. They were a part of the exchange. Earlier,
market was smaller than society. Now market and trade, kind of, sort of,
dictate life as they have become as big as the society.
In this
system, the idea of subsistence economy doesn't go well. Everything will be
commodified. Commodity is the object that has a use value and an exchange
value. Every single thing becomes a commodity. The primary function in a
capitalism society is buying and selling. Either you are a capitalist, you have
means of production, you will buy labour power. You will be selling and getting
money. If you are labour you must sell your labour power. If you are a weaver,
you cannot sustain youself, as the big automatic looms produce faster and
cheaper.
With this
buying and selling...
The kind of
inequality was huge.
Alam Shah ,
Beecham house.
Surplus value
In post world
war they distributed surplus value among the workers.
With this idea
of surplus value, you will get the text... Its not a traditional idea of
class... Your location with means of production...
What creates
the class system?
Ask Questions
!! :)
Who is poor
and who is rich?
Class is more
visible than caste.
What creates
these class system?
Marx is being
discussed because of coherency of ideas.. Some of his ideas were challenged.
Use Value:
Something is useful for you.
Gold has some
use value, but lot of exchange value.
Capitalism is
pushing everything to have exchange value. Use value is primary.
Capitalism
commodifies things.
For each
activity you need to go and buy.
For each and
every human activity society is commodified.
20th of August, 2019
Practicum
component of SoE
Observe the
assembly
Assignment:
3 short answer
questions:
Write a page for
every answer
Why do
sociologists use difficult terms, like, stratification?
Inequality is an
effect of stratification.
Stratification,
layers, top soil, porous rock.
All the layers are
dependent on each other.
The layers contribute to each other, there is interdependency between each other.
The layers contribute to each other, there is interdependency between each other.
Stratification
among tribes, military stratification ( sepoys, officers )
In some cases,
like military, stratification may be needed.
Army needs a
leader in order to win a war. Inequality can be legitimate in some ways. There
all kinds of sociologists.
Inequality :
something is wrong, inequality is a loaded term. Since we value equality,
inequality is looked down up.
Loaded terms
create biases.
Capital in 21st
century
Inheritance Tax
Why do we use
stratification, and not inequality?
Stratification is
a value neutral term.
Oxfram, an
orgranisation that p
1% Vs 99%
Which class do you
belong to?
Middle Class.
Middle class, why
the fuss around middle class?
- What is social stratification?
- Why understanding systems and process of social stratification is important for the students of education?
- What kind of sociological understanding of stratification will help students?
- Systems of stratification
Metaphor:
comparison
What is social
stratification?
The key metaphor
operates around geo
All the social
structures are found in History.
Stratification in
society is not natural formation.
Stratification....
Women are not
born, they are made..,
Labour as a strata
...
Class in itself
Class for itself
Dog bites the man,
not a story.
Man bites the dog,
this is the story.
Strange, unusual
makes an interesting story.
No form is random
You have to think
in terms of Stability, change, continuity
Education gives a
person social mobility
Education has a
big role to play.
Movies on
education, Hindi Medium
How can education
challenge stratification?
Ambedkar has
emphasized education.
Anchaliya
Problematizing the
content
The types of
morning in a family; working class family, farming family, business family...
Some forms of
curricula can favour some classes.
Institutional
arragement
Stratified
schools.......
Chagan Bhujbal
Sugarcane lobby,
cotton lobby...
Rich farmer could
be a rent seeker. They give their land and get a secured land.
The business of
efficiency
Rent seekers look
for stability...
Rent Seeking
Skill Rent,
Royalty rent
Its not your money
that defines your class, its how you attain the money that defines the class.
Next class will be
on class.
Just Read
Communist Manifesto Chapter 1
Read Giddens
For the next
class, class
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Attendance
The self
can arise only because of the society. How the acquisition of language can help
a perosn.
Contrast
his argument with the theories we have read.
Functionalism
and Conflict theory are called as macro theories.
And this
particular approach, Herbert, is called micro theory.
Macro
Social
System
Social
Structure
Micro
Social
Action
Social
Actor
Marx says,
its not about invidividual, this idea of realising profit, its a systemic
logic. Usually the social actors participating in the system.
Macro
Theories
Ways to
explain human behaviour.
Artificial
Watson
trained pigeon to play table tennis.
Interaction
Playing
What is
symbol?
Interaction
Interpretation
is always involved in human interactions. What gives meaning to certain things
depends on the social setting. Interpretation.
In all the
cases we interpret.
After the
interpretation
Before
doing anything, one thinks a lot. We anticipate two-three steps ahead, very
much like chess.
We imagine
what kind of response will I expect. This gives goal orientation. You action is
goal orientation.
INTERPRETATION.
Socialisation
Looking
yourself from other's perspective.
Decentric
Understand
Yourself
Self
Development
of Self
You have
multiple selves.
Rene
Descartes
Self is
reflective entity.
We all
play several roles everyday.
I
continuously ...
Self i
Andhayug!
While
doing sociology, we need to ....
NCF 2005
Conduct a
good inter
Macro and
micro socialogy
Looking
youserlf formt
Concept
map
Unit 2
Paraphrased
Sentence
(Maria, 2011, pp 23-29)
Reference
IPA
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Attendance
You can have a
community which consumes everything is has. Will there be a political class?
What is a city
comprised of?
A place which
doesn't produce but still is able to sustain itself.
The issue of
justice will come later.
Farmers,
producers are supporting us so that we can offer our services. If you see in a
kingdom in 3 BC, a huge army, it will have a purpose. Harrappan Civilisaiton.
Without surplus production you cannot imagine a city.
Nation leaders
were producers, they were doing some ritual/political functions.
You have classes
in a city.
Surplus Value :
this surplus value creates classes.
Communist
Manifesto: Powerful language. A literary piece.
First Stage:
Primitive conmmunism
Once you start
producing beyond your immidiate needs, then you can sustain a class which is
not involved in primary production.
In various
systems, there are ways to consume the surplus production. Even in feudalism
there was scope for surplus value. You cannot imagine Taj Mahal without surplus
value. So feudalism also had realisation
of surplus value. The process of realisation of surplus value was different. In
feudalism there were serfs ( half slaves ), they had some rights. Serfs were
supposed to produce for masters. Generation after generation, you would work
for one landlord. This was one kind of control. This was based on certain kinds
of relationships. Slavery is not being discussed here. I would strongly
recommend Communist Manifesto. In feudalism the relationship is based on a
certain value system. The key is loyalty. Swamibhakti, Wafadari... Feudalism
still exists in our society. That relationship was based on a certain value
system, the idea of loyalty, the idea of obligation. You must be loyal to your
master. You cannot work for someone else. On the other hand if you are the landlord,
you have an obligation to support the family. From there you come across as a
king who is supportive to his subjects. Ramayana, Ram Rajya: an ideal system
for feudalism. Ram has obligation to support his subject, but he doesn't have
the obligation to treat everyone equally. Somebody who is loyal is Hanuman.
Gandhi has given a different context of Ram Rajya. Even if the family is ill,
the landlord must support the serf / labourer. This loyalty, this value system
defines feudalism. Direct controlling the labour. Complete control of the
labour was slavery. In feudalism, control was confined to the place/farm where
one worked. Slaves had no freedom. Absolutely no freedom. Abraham Lincoln.
Qutubuddin Aibak, slave dynasty in India.
When you
conceptulaise things in Sociology you bring ....
Sociologists go
by generalisations. That loyalty and value system defined feudalism.
In capitalism the
relation between wage labourer and factory owner is different. Freedom is
central to the value system. You are free to work for any factor. Your
relationship to your employer will be based on your contract. You are willingly
working for your employer. As long the contract is being respected, you will
not be violating the social norm. This is the freedom which one enjoys. Here
realisation of surplus value is different. This freedom is somewhere about,
look, the large mass of population, doesn't have a means of production.
Independent producer means, you have few acres of land, you are a subsistence
farmer, or you are a craft person, who has a factory, you are producing for
yourself. Capitalism doesn't produce on a small scale. Eg. Looms. The unit cost
of clothes produced in these looms will be significantly lower than that
produced by small scale weavers. Eventually they will sell everything and go
the city and work as labourers. We have so many cases of farmer suicides, in
Karnataka, in Maharashtra... Just look at the location of History... Population
working for them. Now its coming in small businesses as well. Gradually its
difficult for a small shopkeeper to sustain. A few, Mom and Pop shop in the
corner. We also have lots of big supermarket run by local businesses. Once the
big retail chains come, you wont find small shops. Talk to any small
shopkeeper, s/he will be facing challenges. Typically, the way merchant
capitalism took over primary producer.
Internal policy:
We get the products on the platform. We allow the market to develop, then
become the manufacturer of that product,
Amazon Basics. Going by Marxian analysis, the logic of capitalism works
in favour of big companies. Finally, you will be free from all forms of
production. We are being free in that sense. We are free to choose. We are free
from all kinds of worldly attachment. In other sense we are completely
dependent. You sell your labour power. You commodify the labour power. This is
the idea of labour power. You go to the market and sell you skills. You have no
other choice. If you have just one choice, you are NOT free. First choice is gone, of producing something.
You must work, because not you cannot be a private producer. This
commodification is an all pervasive phenomenon. You cannot produce your bread
and butter. You cannot be a small farmer. You cannot think of not working and
not working for you food. We have experiments, cooperatives. Very idea of
freedom.... Capitalism is more efficient. 'He' doens't soun.....
All the systems
have certain contradictions. The next system supersedes the previous system.
Socialisation of production is good. In a relationship of production, people
are coming together and producing.
Eventually,
private property has to be abolished. Once the structure of ownership is
abolished, you shall be free. The stories of Stalin, Polpot etc. Theoretically
its possible to imagine, that people will come together to produce.
Disembeddment :
Three kinds of
exchanges:
Reciprocity
Commodification
Redistribution
We were talking
about commodification. We are in a system of commodity production. In day to
day life reci and redis have not disappeared. This commodity production has
changed....
In feudal system,
economic system is embedded in the social fabric. The economic system is also a
local system, confined to a local area. International trade was miniscule
(minimal). Only big traders/merchants were a part of the global trade. If you
compare the international trade with local production, it was very less. Right
now, you and me can have coffee from Latin America. Basically, the point is
feudal system was local production system. In that sense, the production was
embedded in the social fabric, in relationships. There was no currency. But
weren't gold and silver used? But there was no mandate on currency. Many kings
would issue coins. Experiments with currency were there. But farmers and local
trade had mostly, barter. The proportion of exchange was fixed. Barter system
constricted you , limited you in terms of access you could have to other
products. Yajman, the priest calls you Yajman, You are also Yajman of your
barber. As a return of his service, he would get foodgrains, farm produce. They
would give farm produce.
Yajmani System, a
way of reciprocity?
Once money enters
it commodifies things. Once money enters its makes everything free to flow.
Everybody accepts money, and then you have international currency like Dollar.
This is disembeddedment. If you have money, you can get things from different
place. If you have money, you can get anything from anywhere.
Dependent on
immediate environment
Not dependent on
immediate environment
Tirupur
Affluent
countries have shifted their dirty production to third world countries. The
Europeans design. No Logos. Book by
This is
disembededment. This is going towards commodity production. Here you cannot
hold your worker with yourself.
Structural
inequality: A capitalist can stop production for an year, workers cannot stop
their work for an indefinite power. Collective bargaining may address
structural inequalities in the labour market. Money dislocated everything.
This has its
impact on the education system.
Karl Something
Something
Adam Smith:
Market regulates itself. Social systems should be built on the models of the
market.
Its not possible
to dissociate ecnomics from politics and society.
Fair market
requires trust. Trust is a function of society.
Market needs
property. Property ownership is defined by law. You cannot own oxygen. You own
your body. There are different legal systems. If you completely own your body,
you could commit suicide. Surrogacy is allowed in certain legal system. Sex
work is legally allowed. They pay taxes and are protected by the system. What
is commodity and what is not commodity depends from place to place.
The implication
of all the above on education:
School has become
a business enterprise. Has the relationship between teachers and students
changed? Has education become a commodity or is it still reciprocal? Teacher
and student is still reciprocal. There is an element of the reciprocal
relationship. Salary is an important motivation for us to work. Maybe, if I get
double my salary, I might have a dilemma. Theories/toolkit/conceptual apparatus
will help you to think. The field ...
Powerful
imagination in the policy circle, treating teaching as a commodity. School
chain as Starbucks cafe! What is the best way to teach Maths and Science, you
will create lesson plans and curriculum, then all of this will be taught,
delivered by the teacher. Processes. The push towards commodification is high.
CBSE also has done standardisation, though political. There are different
degrees of conceptualisation; Curriculum, lesson plan, how to conduct a class.
Sitting right here in Gurgaon, I can tell you, what is being taught in Maths in
which grade.
Teaching is not
about knowledge. Its also about learner. There are two dimensions: One if
knowledge and the others is the learner. Teaching Theory of Relativity in grade
six is not teaching. You may have all the knowledge, because you are not
keeping the learner in mind. While you are brining certain body of knowledge...
The moment you
keep aside improvisation and spontaneity, the classroom become a MacD kitchen.
Marx doesn't see
it as a closed chapter. Marx has imagination to move beyond this.
The model of
teachers has always been as the provider of knowledge and education. And hence they have been exploited by giving
absurdly lower remuneration.
Commodification
doens't always have negative implications. And reciprocity and redistribution
should not be romanticised.
Lower caste
people coming as consumer, being treated as a consumer, not just as a lower
caste. Commodification frees you from bondage. Dalit scholars have gone far
beyond.. Dalit Chamber of Capitalists. BR Ambedkar was not pro-capitalism.
Teaching learning
is more reciprocal. Standardisation is just one element of commodification.
There are critical theories feel that this is not a closed chapter. Entire
process resembles an assembly line.
School as a
counterpublic sphere - Henry Giroux
School as critical space - meaning a space to look
beyond the obvious. As a historically created, socially created system.
Early version of Marxism, economic
system is primary cause, effect of economic system is seen on other systems.
Base and
superstructure system.
Superstructure: Media, Religion, Politics,
Family, Education
Base:
Relations of
production: proletariat, bourgeoisie, private property
Means of
production: machines, raw materials
The kind of
religion you will have in your country will depend on the education system.
Protestant reform
as emergence of capitalism.
After WWII, you
see welfare estate. Yes, there is idea of private property. You have
unemployment benefit. Capitalists hate unemployment benefit. MNREGA is
basically an employment benefit. Any property owner hates MNREGA.
Political system
shaping economic system.
That's all about
conflict theory. I need 15-20 minutes to talk about Max Weber. Then there is
important to go into the third perspective. Next class is on Tuesday.
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Conflict Theory
Every form has its own function, like the appendix.
Sociological systems resemble biological systems.
Giving an analogy ;
One can understand evolution of society through biology. Society is not biology, it grows like biology.
Biological explanations are not adequate. We need sociological explanations to explain our behaviour.
Society is similar to amoeba.
The role of teacher.
Like in amoeba every function is together.
Now we have separate institutions for pedagogic functions.
Complex Societies
Role of education in a complex society.
Status in a modern society is achieved.
Ascribed: Given by birth
Achieved:
Use of keywords to recapitulate the learning material
Using key terms in a subject/discipline.
We need mass education.
Deschooling society, Ken Robinson, Tony Wgner
We need learning networks.
Separating morality from religion.
Value Consensus, solidarity is important.
Religion had the function of moral education.
Reading across the disciplines. They mutually support each other. If you read original pieces
Changes are not just quantitative but qualitative.
If lots of quantitiative change accumulate , qualitative change c
Analogy of differentiation.
***
Axioms and Theorem
***
Keyword in Functionalist perspective: interdependence
Various systems are dependent on each other.
A is dependent on B.
B is dependent on A.
People loose their land, other than his labour power. Labour is hence dependent on the industrialist.
A ( labour ) is dependent on B ( employer )
Working for them.
Who is more dependent?
Working for someone, working with someone?
Collective bargaining
KC Das, MG Road
Families
Asymmetry of power.
Degree of dependence.
Why? Because...
Domestic Work: Economic value of work.
Running a household is quite rigourous.
Productive value was given to all forms of labour but not to the domestic work.
Biography of Karl Marx
Invisibility of labour.
Interdependence, skewed in favour of one group.
Conflict Theory: Marx, Max Weber
Interdependence, As
Antagonistic interdependence
Two Dimensions:
Only labour can create value.
Creating Value.
Labour theory of value.
Antagonism: Interest of one group in
There in profit onl
Demand and Supply
Exchange can
Companies are corporate now,
If you buyig a share
Power has its own logic. It doesn't need to depend on ownership.
Communist Manifesto
Ricardo
Functionalist Perspective:
The concept of exploitation
Exploitation is antagonistic interdependence,
Max Weber.
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By AnkitAttendance
Functionalism
Till now we studied general topics.
Function of Education in Modern Complex Society.
Terms and concepts in sociology
Stop me when you feel you've not understood.
I am calling it basic outline because this theoretical approach is used to understand why/how society emerges from a mass of individuals. We can see individuals everywhere. Its one way to theorize society. Why in society there are certain institutions, structural features. Sociology and anthropology. These are very closely linked subjects, esp. Social anthropology and sociology.
I will present a general outline of this topic. Teacher needs to present argument in full, but as of now a general outline will be presented and we will enrich it later.
Also, we aren't doing MA sociology. So we will look at education from the lens of sociology.
Keep taking notes. This is how you will understand what you've not understood.
First thing is, that a society functions like a system. And they create a parallel. Society functions like a biological system. This is a metaphor. In our body we have several systems.
For eg. Digestive system, reproductory system, circulatory system.
If there is one change in one system it will impact other systems as well. These systems are coming together to create the human body. They are inter-dependent.
Different sub-systems support each other. Its a part as well as a whole. When various part come together its called a whole. These various systems and organ have various forms/structure.
These structural features have some function. Everything has some function. Take the example of fingers. Thumb looks different because it has different function.
We have four limbs, two legs and two hands. ( Tetrapods )
In humans upper limbs have different function as compared to the lower limbs. In monkeys and cats a similar thing exists. We have appendix which has no function. If appendix grows doctor removes it without a second thought. In other cases, the organ must be repaired. Appendix doesn't have any function. Each organ has a function. Social systems are like biological system, according to functionalist approach.
Political system, economic system, judicial system, education system, administrative system. All these systems are like different parts of the body. One change in a system will impact other systems as well. This is not very hard to imagine. If there are changes in the economic system, other systems will also get affected. If you follow politics, till 1990s the proprietary firms had good presence in politics. But now there are corporates. They have bigger say in politics. Gurgaon Vs. Rohtak. Major corporations have come up. Like human body, if there is one change in one system, there is subsequent changes in other systems. These are organic.
The second idea is that there is progressive differentiation. They evolution starts with simple , single celled organisms. Every function would be carried out in the single cell. Differentiation...
[photo of amoeba]
Amoeba, a single celled creature.
[ photo of cow ]
A mammal has various organs. The limbs of cow are not similar to humans.
We can make distinct sounds. Thanks to Biology.
Coming back to functionalism. Each part should have a function
Coming to education.
Social world.
Durkeim tries to understand the transition of society from simple to complex.
Solidarity. Mechanical solidary means where people...
It is important to pass knowledge, value and skills.
In animals genes are passed. In humans we pass more than the genes. Imagine hunting gathering society. Next generation needs to be trained.
Specialised role.....
Hunters and gathers were like amoeba. Family was the unit of production. Nurturnace.
The form was not different.
Fuctions (specialised) : Warriors, farmers, weavers.
So at this stage we see that people felt that there is some kind of training.
Now in society we have further differentiation. There are policyies.
Everybody needs education.. We have a lot of differentation.
Pedagogic space beyond extended family.
Mass Schooling: Moderm.
Modern society has this idea of mass schooling.
Meta-Question: What is sociology?
Every form has a function. If there is change in one system it will affect other systems.
Each structural feature has a different function.
Ask Questions!
If survival of the fittest were true, no baby would survive.
Have you heard about Eugneics movement. ( Holocaust )
Idea of progressive differentation
****
Durkeim Bhaiya asked two questions:
The modern society has evolved in different ways:
Simple society and complex society.
For any society solidarity is important.
Complex Society: Greater interdependence. This interdependence is NOT visible.
I am dependent on so many institutions. I need to go to market to buy clothes. All of you.
See my dependence on others. In a smaller community a person would know a lot of things. Not as I am dependent of others, others are also dependent on me. We teach our kids. Interdependence is greater now. We are dependent of so many institutions.
What are the things you've consumed? Where did those things come from?
This interdependence is greater now. Division of labour. Deeper specialisation.
Q: Is it good? Deeper specialisation.
We have specialised institutions performing the functions. Somewhere that interdependence is not visible. We have various service providers. You have blacksmiths, barber, cobbler. You could see them. Now I don't know who had woven my clothes. As interdependence increases, its visualisation has decreased. In the previous society there was a mechanical solidarity.
But in this (present) kind of society, we have organic solidarity. This solidarity needs to be built. The important function of education, according to Duru( Durkehiem ) Bhaiya is to create solidarity.
This kind of training, habit, to get associated with a person, who is neither your friend nor relative, is built in school. Family shall treat you in a special way. In a neighbourhood you make associations/ friendships according to your comfort, choice.
There will be general rules in the school, just like the society.
School creates one set of rules for everyone and subjects everyone to those rules without any discrimination. One set of rules applicable to everyone. Accepting the general rule is something that school teaches. If there is violation of the rule, punishment should be there. S/he should realise that the action is bad for the society. He was not in favour of punishing a child out of anger. Punishment should not be out of anger. The child should be explained. Only then punishment will be effective.
Its important that the child associates with a person s/he does not know. Child must follow the rules. This is the way he feels.
What the are functions for society as a whole?
New Value Consensus:
- Acceptance and commitment to General Law and will of society
- Acceptance of the fact that status in modern society is achieved, not given by birth (ascribed)
School is a critical and key institution in modern society. There are no other institutions providing equality. School class functions as social system. Achievement over entitlement.
Ascribe: by birth.
Achieve: by one's own hard work
Status: in a traditional society is ascribed but in a modern society is achieved.
He was in favour of meritocracy. In a class same teacher teaches everyone. Assessment is same, curriculum is same. Hence its a level playing field. He said that school is most important institution for role allocation in a modern society. Unlike a feudal society where roles are assigned according to your birth. You life course has been fixed before your birth.
The modern society believes in the value of achievement . Family cannot bring this value. In family you have different roles. Elder son, younger daughter etc. Your status depends on a lot of things. Everyone has different roles ascribed to them. In family you don't achieve your status. In the school you must achieve your status. School has the function of role allocation in the society. In a modern, meritocratic society, anybody can become anything that they want. He is giving some answer to the question.
School creates new kind of value consensus. The person who is failing will also consider this system as fair. The person who is unskilled labour will also respect this system.
Q. What are the functional relationships between education and others parts of the social system?
Duru Bhaiya : People need to be treated according to the universal laws.
Suppose you are in a queue to buy a ticket.
Aap jaante nahi ho mai kaun hoon!
In modern society your position is achieved.
Function of school with respect to economic system: You need to learn things which are needed in the job market. Only specialised institution can create a skill set.
One of teachers in DU said:
DTC bus conductor, biggest star of our time, Amitabh Bacchhan. He was the son of Harivansh Rai Bacchhan. Kirodimal College. The function of education is to allocate various roles.
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30th of July, 2019
You gradually realize you find comfort in some areas.
Relationships
Just imagine the number of interactions you've gone through. If you want to study something you will have to understand the distinct phenomena.
Counting frogs
Weighing frogs
If we imagine that the relationships we build are random, then studying
If we need to study something it needs to have some stability
If everything is so random, there is no pattern, there is no stability, it doesn’t have distinct characteristic, how shall we study it?
What gives stability?
Routine: If you do same thing again and again.
A group routine.
There is a general routine that office timing is nine to five. Its true for Blore, Delhi, Lucknow and Pune.
( Element of Humour )
Understanding patterns.
Habits: Give stability to your interactions.
These habits could be individual.
Customs: Generations after generations. Various things we have been doing in similar ways. We start thinking in terms of religious terms.
Secular rituals and secular customs eg. Celebration of Independence Day.
Coffee Time: Sacred, Customs and rituals. The way ritual shapes society.
Roles: Role outlives the actor. The person may die/disappear but the role will be there.
Principalship is a role. Same school may have a situation when there is no Principal but the role will still be there.
Social Institutions:
Schools. Colleges, offices, marriage as a social institution.
Social Structure: Stratification, class structure during the feudal time
Social structure in modern European society is like a teardrop.
From pyramid to teardrop
If you want to study something you need something distinct to study.
What gives regularity to our actions?
What are the means provided by culture
Animals also repeat their actions.
Animals: Biologically wired to do such things.
Regularity is not unique in human beings. It exists in animals.
My cat comes to me at 2.30 am.
Animals do things repeatedly.
What's unique to humans is that we pass not just the genes but something more.
We don't just stay bound by biology.
Any kind of tool helps us to go beyond the biological limits.
Any physical tool extends your biology.
We also have culture tools and memory tools. They extend our cognitive capability.
What is genetically coded in case of other species….
Social institutions are like social genetics.
Genetic pull is something that’s biological.
Social institution are not natural, they are cultured.
Through memory tools
Symbolism:
Because of currency notes we can defy consumption and preserve it
Animals consume what's there in their immediate.
We consume things far away from us.
We have been able to control our consumption and production.
Particular act has been assigned particular symbolic meaning.
Empirical study: creating hypothesis. A might cause B. Testing of the hypothesis. You give a probabilistic statement.
Social facts are interpreted.
What we get through our senses, we interpret.
In the laboratory its possible to keep many factors constant, in social world its difficult. Because the factors are interlinkied.
ITR course: Control group and intervention group
Seeing the impact of an intervention.
In order to check ethical issues.
Medicine trial
6 weeks internship.
In science you are observing something that doesn't observe you.
Field view of society. They are not arm-chair people.
Impartial observation, you're observing the interpretation.
As a social reformer, your first job is to understand the The maning
How are the sociologists interpreting.
There is certain advantage as well
Simple:
Mass education.
Durkeim has an approach: Functionalist approach.
What is functional approach in sociology?
Transition has been explained by different sociologists in different ways, through different approaches.
Max Weber was not happy with rationalisation. Iron cage of rationality. Not a happy person, in someways.
Social construction of self:
Self fulfilling prophecy
Equality and inequality are loaded terms.
So sociologists use stratification.
Society is also stratified on the basis of status.
For eg. An honest judge might be earning the same as a shopkeeper but the judge will have a higher respect.
The society is stratified not just according to wealth but also status.
Dignity of labour.
Education has impact the social stratification.
There can be more than three themes of stratification.
Like ethnicity, rural/urban etc.
General, introductory of this field
Critical Pedagogy: Mk and Rish.
Harlombus
30th of July, 2019
Notes by Roshan
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26th of July, 2019
Recap
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We discussed what we study in Sociology. We study about social facts.
Social fact is a fact that we interpret with our consciousness.
Role of Women keep changing from society to society
Stopping at a red light.
Social facts keep changing. They may be present simultaneously.
There should be stability, certainty, generality.
When we assign certain symbols for certain things.
Generality:
Ya
Durkeim said about the social fact that it has certain complications. Its a product of human consciousness. If you see a begger, you recognize what his or her needs are.
Social facts keep changing. If it keeps changing, then why is it changing.
This generality is limited by time and space.
Human is a cultural being. Culture creates symbols which leads to social facts. Social facts are social constructions.
Human beings use memory tools. We can extend our biology, our memory. Not just physical biological capacity, but mental biological capacity.
Niz
Social fact is something that... Prodcut of collective consciousness.
Stability, human being creates culture. Biological instincts... Memory tool...
MK:
Anything which clicked? Anything that you find exciting?
Memory tool.
Why do we study sociology?
How do we study sociology?
Anything else?
Social fact has to be recognised/interpreted.
Five senses give us some date. But the data is not social fact.
It must be interpreted, collectively.
The function has been assigned social fact.
Symbols are collective creation. So social facts are also collective.
Q: Will languages be social fact?
Kru: Eating is a physical activity. But what we eat depends on the social fact. Same for walking.
MK: Having coffee is a social act. Not just a physical activity.
Most of the acts that we perform has a social dimension.
" Theek se khana khao " Table manners and etiquettes.
These social aspects of human behaviour we study in sociology.
Sociologist works on the social dimensions of things.
Various aspects of eating can be studied by different disciplines.
Different social actions... Part of it has social dimension.
The class has some understanding of what do we study in sociology.
Social fact cannot be perceived through senses.
After collective interpretation, sensory perception becomes a social fact.
Sense perception gives us data.
Shaking Hands. Interpretation: Friendliness.
We are so much into social facts that we don't feel we have interpreted.
Interpretation is not just of difficult essays and poems. It happens all the time.
We are interpreting the poem. In our case, we do not realise that we are going through interpretation.
You can see shaking hands through your eyes. But Namaskara is interpreration.
Social interpretation is live social action.
Social Fact/Construction
Durkeim.
For Durkeim, he distinguishes social fact and social act.
Social facts are always independent of individuals.
He says; Prinicipal of a School is a social fact. There are certain ways in which .....
Principal has resigned. Someone has ...
Say this university. Twenty years down the line none of us will be here.
Actors will change but institution remains.
This is a strong collective position.
Every actor brings a different style to the same role of a script.
Social fact: For eg. Vice-chancellor of the university.
Social fact and statistics.
In such and such country birth rate is 3.6.
Can any family have 3.6 birth rate?
Class starts with jokes.
Memes and jokes.
A mathematician wanted to cross the river. He found the average height as 4.8.....
We have some idea
Symbloic itner
Community and communication.
Language is not the sole medium of communication.
How do we know when a group become a society?
What is the difference between a group and a society?
Hunting of animals; a coordinated activity.
Will people waiting for bus is a society?
Peter Something has already asked this question.
Sociologists think rigorously. They keep questioning.
How is this class a society?
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How do we study sociology?
What is the way of studying social science?
August Comte wanted to study the society scientifically.
How do we do things in science?
What is scientific method?
Comte wanted to understand social world scientifically.
He was modelling sociological study on biological study.
He called it social physics.
What is scientific method?
If you can observe and test it.
Observation.
Testing
Making the result predictable.
Explain: Observation.
In a society women are asked to behave in a certain way.
Consistent observation.
Hard Sciences.
Observation, Testing and then Recurrence of the observation.
Darwin: Observation of animals, observing natural selection.
After observation, we form a hypotheses followed by testing.
Observation ----> Recurring ----> Hypotheses ----> Testing
Kru: Dolphins behaviour. They were made to see the mirror. They were able to figure out that they are seeing their reflection.
Rigourous observation is better that observation.
Rigourous means multiple times, with care ( being careful )
After all the labour, years of research, your hypotheses may go wrong.
What if someone gets emotional?
Scientists keep disproving others.
Sociologists tend to disagree with each other.
Hazing: Means taking precautions
Social sciences says probabilistic statements.
I am not able to disprovethat
Null Hypothesis.
Creating hypothesis needs to be rigouros.
Whenever I wear something red I have headache and this had happened seventeen times in my life. Hence, red is not good for me. SO my theory is red in not good for my mental health.
Whenever a black cat crosses my road, my day went bad. ( 18 times )
All the correlations are not causations.
Correlations are things happening in a sequence/simultaneously.
Causation: Cause and effect.
How can I prove that my bad day is a result of the black cat? I will have to keep other things constant.
Possibly, this is the cause of this effect. There could be other cause as well. But you keep other things constant to find out.
Time take for objects to ball down.
In science lab, you have the facility to keep other things constant. You can create vacuum.
Causation can be established after an experiment.
The experimentation in social sciences is difficult. Keeping various factors constant is difficult.
Hypotheses: Class size matters more than the qualification of teacher.
They will take ten different schools and in all the ten different schools they will have similarly qualified teachers.
In this case we keep the teacher qualification constant.
You keep the cohort, its social composition constant. ( Parental background...
We cannot create vacuum in a society.
We know, in India, there's a big difference between graduates.
How can the factors be controlled?
There are parameters which can be kept constant.
The kind of rigorous experimentation possible in science is difficult in social sciences.
Hypothesis: Providing library in school is good for literacy.
Testing: Providing
Randomised Controlled Sampling. Works mostly in health sector.
Snake behaviour, cat behaviour.
You face lots of ethical issues.
Establishing clear causation is difficult is social sciences.
In many cases testing means keeping many factors constant, which may be unethical.
Unethical practice in testing of medicines.
Reasonably good theories can be created. A social scientist may never be able to work like a scientist.
Social science theory cannot be as robust as a science theory.
Consent is essential.
By taking consent one can limit one's ethical guilt.
You may make reasonable guesses and give probabilistic statements.
Social science theories are not hunches.
Common sense in not so common.
In common sense is guided by popular sense.
We cannot meet the standard of hard science, its better to follow some kind of rigorous testing.
By first week of Aug, we will discuss a few things. We will get 10-15 days of time to do th eassignment.
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Suppose in Biology when you go and observe a termite colony and if you are not disturbing colony, they might not change their behaviour because of your presence.
When you go for any kind of survey...
What is your family income?
The answer you will get will be biased. The object you want to interpret will actually interpret you. They will try to sense if you an official or a student. Is this a person from an NGO?
There is a significant difference between social science and science.
[Video recording the lecture through phone and audio through parabolic sound recorder]
You went to observe them, they will also observe you.
When you go as a social scientist, they will observe you and judge you and answer accordingly.
For anthropology study, minimum time is nine months.
If you spend a lot of time with the people they will forget you an carry on with their usual routine.
When you are doing an observation, you are also being observed.
Scientists usually are not 'observed' by their subjects.
Reasonable guess.
Social Science study is systematic.
1. Experimentation is difficult.
2. Observation in itself becomes a social process.
Probabilistic statements... Statements with qualifiers.
Contextual statement.
In Blore Upper primary classes, this and this is the case.
Why do we not have universality in social science the way we have in science?
Q. Can we interpret/understand social revolutions/movement scientifically?
Revolutions in China.
There are many factors that are behind revolutions.
3. The nature of explanation in social sciences is also different.
When you observe something recurring in Chemistry, you test in in different situations and then if it recurs (repeats) then you may form an hypotheses and test it with experiment and hence support with data.
In sociology is there's something that's recurring then we take a step further. In sociology, we ask the why. Why is this recurring again and again?
In this elections you had some 60-70% candidates with criminal record who won the elections.
As this is not a science, the social scientist will ask why is this happening.
Q. When majority of the people are not criminal, then why are they voting for the criminal?
Puzzling questions of the society.
From What we move to ----> WHY.
We conduct series of experiments.
Nature of explanation of social science is different from that of sciences.
You can fight the elections IF you are not convicted.
In natural sciences, you build a deeper theory .
Social Science:
Humans don't just behave,
Our actions as not motivated by our needs, they are motivated by our intent.
The nature of explanation in science and social science.
In social sciences we need to understand thy...
Nature of explanation in social science.
Intentions, Motivations.
There is difference between nature of explanation between sciences and social sciences.
There are various advantages of studying socials sciences.
One, we know ourself better.
The writer could understand the emotions.
Eventually we are studying human beings. This may create biases as well.
French ~ Bengalis
We have tendency to universalise our parochial experiences. This advantage we have because we understand other humans. But this can also become a bias.
To do social science you need to decentre yourself.
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25th of July, 2019
Attendance
So how were the three days?
I am not going to talk about that. Did you enjoy it?
Okay so, I've decided not to ask today to summarise previous week's class.
This week you also went for the three days school visit.
We will have practicum exercise for SoE. You will go to same school with some exercises.
Out of eight days, three are non school exercises.
One is watching documentary. One is movie show. Last practicum day. One is something that is a surprise.
Mostly very small things to observe. My belief is that larger sociological question cant be answered by one or two observations. I will tell you what to keep in mind. I will tell you what to ask, how to ask, because an improper manner of asking question might make people uncomfortable.
I will brief you about that.
Course Structure on Moodle.
Once the question "What is Sociology?" is resolved, we will move forward.
I will give you some initial ideas.
Tomorrow I will spend some time on Sociology of Education.
Then I will present you the course structure.
Right?
Two classes we spent on the question,
" What is sociology? "
We asked two questions primarily,
1. What do we study in sociology?
2. How do we study society in sociology?
A what question and a how question.
1. For answering Q1 we had discussions and read papers.
What do we study in sociology?
Social Fact
The way we understand the term fact ... Tangible presence ... Something which has physical presence, we can feel it (air), we can taste it, we can touch it. Something that we can access through our five senses and confirm to make sure that a fact is not biased.
The moment we qualify the fact as social fact, it becomes a product of human consciousness.
This is what I want you to understand.
Everything, when analysed, is a product of human consciousness.
In sociology we deal with product of human consciousness.
Eg. Currency notes has material presence. Rupee, Dollar, Yen doesn't have any physical presence.
Money has mental presence.
Note: Poor man's cheque. I promise to pay the bearer a sum of ten rupees.
Note: The value of the work you do.
The way currency note functions , it has a symbolic function. It denotes a value.
Most of the transactions you do is not through physical currency note.
I never thought I will buy food through PayTM. Card is for bigger purchases, online purchases.
Basically, currency note doesn't have a lot of presence these days.
If you pay by currency notes in Europe, people may judge you.
Each social fact is a product of human consciousness.
Eg. Marriage. Every custom has different rituals.
Taking seven rounds. One can see the physical movement. But when those seven rounds make two people married, it becomes social fact.
Imagine any social fact. You cannot observe a social fact through your five senses. You must engage with it and derive the symbolic meaning.
You must have seen teacher teaching in the class.
Dont trust me.
Teaching is a social fact.
Because the speaking of the teacher is symbloic.
Physically one person is speaking and a group of people are just sitting and listening. The same act could be interpreted as teaching and preaching.
In many cases you might not even see someone speaking. For instance a sitar teacher playing a sitar.
How will you know what's happening?
By understanding the context, by interpretation.
Social facts are interpreted. They are not seen.
Saat Phere might be difficult for foreigners to interpret.
A lot of social facts have just been ingrained in our consciousness.
All social facts are products of social consciousness.
Try creating one example of social fact.
Because of interpretation or because of sensory perception.
Something which needs to be interpreted.
Some social facts:
1. Sindoor and Bindi
2. Touching books with feet
3. Wearing inappropriate clothes
4. Whistling
5. Singing songs when someone is passing
6. Closing the door for privacy
7. Opening door during Diwali
8. Gangajal
9. Non-disposal of images of gods and goddesses
10. Conversations and use of words: Dukaan band karna hai - Dukaan mangal karna hai
Diya bujh gaya - Diya bad gaya
Language
11. White rangoli
Girls not being allowed to study; is that a social fact?
One counter example.
For social fact we need a context.
Festivals.
If you get a degree you get a job. This belief, is it a social fact?
MK: This belief guides your action, so its a social fact.
People of a certain community are terrorists. Is this a social fact?
What is the difference between a bias and a social fact? They are different shades of the same thing.
Degree, marksheet, tenth report card.
It has to be recognized collectively as a degree.
USA is a developed country, India is a developing country, Indonesia is an under-developed country.
Who decides the model of development?
We may disagree.
Development, how should it be interpreted?
This a matter of definition and collective interpretation. This is a dominant idea.
Some social facts that are debatable.
India has a democratic government.
The physical example: Elections, people standing in a queue, people pressing a button in the EVM.
Basically, any social fact involves act of interpretation.
Eg. Eating. Is not a social fact. But eating together is a social fact.
Psychologist Watson (maybe).
Behaviourist. He taught two pigeons to play Table Tennis. He first formed this habit that pigeon to play table tennis.
Question. Contradict. Think Differently.
The act of interpretation.
Social Fact: Result of collective interpretation.
The collective will keep changing.
The scientific facts are static in time and space. On the contrary, social facts keep changing.
The idea of certainty comes with fact.
Here we are admitting if social facts keep changing why are we calling it fact?
How do we arrive at collective consciousness?
Whether currency note is a social fact?
Pk is a good movie to understand social fact.
This is a tricky situation.
I am married. Is it a social fact?
Duality of facts.
Acts of collective interpretation keep changing.
Social facts are not universal facts.
Currency notes are a social fact in India.
Currency notes, marriage rituals have some kind of generality. That generality is limited by time and space.
Though social fact is not universal like the scientific facts but it has some stability, some certainty, some generality.
How we achieve some kind of generality?
How do social facts take birth?
It comes from generation to generation.
It resists change.
Coercion.
We achieve those generalities by forming habits, by creating culture. We go there by creating culture.
Product of consciousness because it requires interpretation.
Stability, certainty, generality.
This certainty comes because humans have the capacity to create a culture.
Break for 7 minutes 30 seconds!
From where do we attain the stability?
We get the stability by creating a culture.
Animals behave on the basis of their biological instinct. The instinct is to preserve its species.
Hard-wired in their biology.
Animals behave in certain ways because of their biology. To understand animals you have to understand their biology.
Human beings are not limited by biology.
I cannot reach the projector because my hand is not that long.
But I can use tools to switch on the projector.
Or I could use the remote and switch the projector on. So the remote is the extension of my hand.
Spectacles are an extension of my eye.
There are certain machines that help me listen sounds.
None of us can fly biologically. But we can fly.
Through these tools are bypassing, transcending our biology, our limits. Whatever limit biology has created, we are doing beyond it. We see what our naked eyes can see.
Is not our brain a biology?
Maybe, when we create culture we transcend our biology.
We also extend our memory. One social physchologist Some-vksy, as we have physical tool to extend our physical capacity, we have memory tool to extend our memory.
Simple memory tool; Tying a knot.
Story of Mirza Ghalib. He used to say a sher at midnight.
Tying the nada of his payjama. We are tool creating animals. This also creates lots of problems.
Nature
Prakriti
Culture
Sanskriti
Kriti is common in prakriti and sanskriti.
Meaning of Pra - Prior.
Kriti - formation.
Pra-Kriti : Something which had been formed before we arrived: Prakriti.
Sanskriti: When we use that natural things and we create a better life. Harmonise.
We primarily create culture by creating memory tools.
Memory Tools - Writing, photography, videography, audio,
We are extending our memory by using memory tools.
This culture creates symbols.
Symbol: assigning a function to something.
For Eg. Marriage.
What helps us to interpret the seven rounds of the Hindu marriage.
Culture helps us to build collective consciousness.
Culture helps us to interpret certain things.
( Shows fifty rupees note ) The value assigned to this
People at ***** college take bath when they had to go for the placement interview .
Idea that we can make symbol of something else. Symbol is only symbol if it is collectively interpreted.
Worship.
Joining two hands is considered a mark of respect.
Some of our behaviour may not be explained by Biology
Lots of our acts cannot be explained by biology until and unless there are certain medical conditions.
Michael Someshot
Thik se chalo. Thik se baitho.
Don't be shocked if your students are behaving in a different way.
Even a simple act could have social connotation.
Chinese women foot binding.
Lots of behaviours require sociological explanation.
There is tendency to bring biological explanation for all kinds of sociological discrimination.
In 1930 one woman called Simon --- , women are not born, they are made.
The general belief is that females need to be treated differently because they have different biology.
Differences are not deficiencies. They could be interpreted as deficiencies.
Social facts are social constructions. Our life is constructed socially, culturally.
We conduct everyday acts through interpretation. You stop at a red light. Red light is a symbol of stopping. This is an act of interpretation. Social fact. Its an act of interpretation, not a sensory perception.
Our life is constructed around these symbols. Its liberating. The moment we say something is a social construction... Biological facts are permanent. Social facts can be challenged. You challenge patriarchy.
Marx never said he was a sociologist. Realization that things are socially constructed
Min Expectation: 1 chapter.
Sociology: A very brief introduction ( By Oxford )
Marxism: A very short introduction
Class Tomorrow: 8:40 am
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18th of July, 2019
Inform the faculty of your absence in advance.
Recap
Society is not simply the aggregate of individuals.
Society is counter-intuitive.
Durkeim's point. He systematically argues it.
Six individuals is not a society.
A society will have an entity more than the six individuals.
Kiran:
Trying to figure out what sociology is.
Sociology is the study of something, figuring out what that thing is.
Let's categorise it.
Behaviours, structures, organisation.
Keep Things Simple.
Prachi:
In the last class we tried to define sociology.
We defined certain examples, table and dance.
Social institutions, structure, behaviour.
Newton: Underlying principles governing
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Did you go through the books on sociology?
[ Download sociology NCERT books ]
Topics that we study in sociology.
Market, is also studied extensively in economics.
Culture, is studied in anthropology as well.
Delimiting the definition of sociology.
Which questions could we leave for other disciplines?
New branch of knowledge is there is an aspect of life not being studied by other disciplines.
SOC came around 19th century. ECO goes back to 17th century.
Until and unless you feel there is an aspect of human life not being studied by other disciplines, only then do we form a new discipline
Early sociologists,
What is the phenomena left for us that is not being studied by other disciplines?
Are the existing methods of reflection not sufficient?
Different religions have certain views about marriage. Religious text.
Somewhere SOClists feel the method to study a topic is not adequate.
August Comte invented sociology. He felt the method to study society could be better.
We should study social life using scientific methods.
Social Physics.
We started studying heavenly bodies by careful observation, systematic documentation and classification. Observe the phenomena as it is. Be a neutral observer. August Komte ..
There are certain laws that explain the phenomena.
Hope. If natural phenomena can use scientific methods, why can't we. - SOCgists.
Galileo said" Heavier things fall faster.
Not everything falls at the same rate.
Demonstration: Pen and Paper.
Galileo said it with logic. He tried to demonstrate it.
We need careful observation and application of logic, then we know the truth.
Everything will fall at the same speed if the air pressure is constant.
Careful observation, making causal connection.
We have Physics, Chemistry and Biology. We need sociology.
Cause and effect. This understanding of cause and effect will help us to understand and predict.
People realised that there is a wide difference between natural sciences and sociology.
Phenomena being studied in sociology is radically different from the natural phenomena.
Get the crux of the reading that is being sent you to.
Core reading from the compendium is a MUST READ.
Seminal essay - essay which someone keeps referring to.
Keep making attempts. Keep reading. Read original works.
August Komte felt social fact can be studied with same scientific precision by careful observation.
What is careful observation?
Logical observation.
Scientists keep thinking.
Building a theory.
With one theory we can explain a thousand things.
August Komte was too hopeful and ambitious.
Social phenomna are qualitatively different from natural phenomena.
Fact
The light of speed in vacuum is 3 x 10^8 m/s in vacuum.
New Delhi is capital of India after 1911.
Certain facts are facts.
Water boils at 100 degrees Celsius.
Delimiting, Hazing.
All living beings die.
Nutrition is essential for living organisms.
The human heart has four chambers.
26 letters in English alphabet.
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Opinions
Abortion is not good.
India can be a member of Security Council. ( This is a prediction. )
Euthanasia should be made legal.
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What is the difference between facts and opinion?
Facts Opinions
Objective ( from object ) Subjective
( a person who is doing
Objective:
Object
Its imposing a fact.
Cannot be objective.
Someone who does is the subject.
Its better to clarify.
Objective: reality which is independent of the observer.
Facts are observer independent.
Facts don't depend on the mood of the person.
Water will boil at 100 degrees everywhere.
Observer - independent
Difference between fact and truth.
Fact is an established truth.
Facts need to
Currency notes: Poor man's cheque.
Difference between 100 rupees note and 100 rupees.
Currency note is not rupees.
Hard Fact
You don't have 100 rupees. You have a hundred rupees note.
Natural facts: Observer independent facts. Timeless facts.
Social Fact: Though different from natural fact, social fact is a fact. Its dependent on the observer, though not on the independent observer. Time-bound. Space-bound?
We still call if a fact because it's independent of individual observation.
Facts are certain, opinions are uncertain.
Social facts are facts.
Can I sue the Bangalore autowallas for not using meters ?!!
A reality which is a distinct phenomena.
We cannot 'do' social physics.
Social facts are independent of the individual.
Institution
" Gandhi is the father of the nation "
Facts exist.
Not forced by collective.
Facts do not depend on human consciousness.
We are saying that social facts are observer dependent fact.
If all the Indians disappear, the 200 rupee currency note will also vanish. Hence its a social fact.
Social fact: Somehow, its certain.
Social facts are dependent on the collective.
Barter system, putting value in coin. Accepting currency notes.
Our salary is just a number.
Facts are independent of individual feelings.
Social fact is mandates by the collective.
We created a demon but now the demon is harming us.
Norms and social facts
Social Fact: Established
What's in a number? Marriage.
Coercive.
Is every law a social fact?
In terms are laws, social facts have authority. Coercion.
My wife and me want buy a three wheeler. Can we come in it?
( Students laugh ). The laugh is a coercion.
Certain social facts have legal power.
Ostracizing.
Social habit/idea
You are calling it fact but you add an adjective before it.
Social fact has some certainty like a fact, some something different.
Durkeim: Doesn't problematize the issue of power.
For durkeim, coercion is not a problem.
Social facts are facts because its independent of humans.
Two different diktats: ( Sabrimala Case )
That gives sociologists the job!!
Durkeim was trying to establish a job for himself.
All social facts are products of human consciousness.
Some social facts are artefacts, like the currency note. Some social facts are symbolic.
A sociologist cannot be as certain as a natural scientist.
Caste system is a social fact. It can impose itself.
Patriarchy is a social fact.
Social facts can outlive time. It guides individual practice.
How is caste system a social fact?
For eg. Girl wants to marry other caste which is lower. What stops the father to get her married is the social fact.
Log kya kahenge? The 'log' are the social fact.
All social facts are not demons.
Caste system is recognised by law.
Collective could be a small group as well
How does a social fact take birth?
How does a social fact die?
The choice of a dress.
Three Wheeler.
Doodle Dude
Sociologists can decipher patterns.
Challenging social fact.
Social facts are time-relative.
Hegemony.
Social facts bring cohesion and solidarity in the society.
Durkeim
@ Read Durkeim and Giddins.
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16th of July, 2019
Take Notes! Keeps your mind active!
Manoj ; SoE
Second class of the semester
The way you start a course,
You provide structure, expectations, round of introductions
My mental faculty is not agile enough to remember all the names.
Gradually we will get to know about each other.
Course structure
I assume that the class is diverse and people are from different background
Unpacking Sociology
What is sociology?
CBSE, NCERT ( Sociology ) [ Watch videos about sociology ]
Sociology is all inclusive. Different experiences in the class with be meaningful and helpful for this course.
What is sociology?
When you raise any question, what kind of answer do you expect?
panopticon
In real life we never ask a what question with a familiar object.
We ask a what question when we encounter everything new.
Have you watched 3 Idiots?
What is a machine?
Why do professors and textbooks bring this kind of definitions.
When you define you want to include all the points, you want to include all the characteristics.
In academia, in the discipline, when you define canal and river,
Canal
River
Attempt we make to define certain things.
Accurate definition.
Jargon is essential?
Provide Rancho kind of answers to sociology.
A universal kind of definition.
What do you get when you try to define something?
Define Table
When we define something we bring function and use of it.
Tables could be made of metal and glass.
You may have table with less than four legs.
The challenge is
A property which is common to all the tables.
Abstraction;
Food
Getting the essence out of the things.
Try to define because it gives you some meaning, sense, otherwise this world is diverse, every changing, how to grapple it, how to contain it in our mind.
What is the function of heart?
How do you define dance?
Its an art form.
It has movements with rhythm.
A set of movements that flow along with a music.
Its a rhythmic movement.
Dance: Understanding the ways of doing it.
It has movement. All the movements are not dance.
It usually comes with song.
Deliberately it brings a rhythmic pattern.
Function:
Its used to entertain, express, aesthetic enrichment of the audience,
Its a profession or amateur work.
Don't leave out amateur work.
Creating a boundary which only allows the phenomena, object, process.
We create a boundary.
Old Amitabh Bacchhan movie ( to give false witness )
Imaan Dharam
How big was the stolen thing? ( The Hen )
While defining bring both your hands, we specific.
Poetry and Sociology
The situations you will encounter.
What is sociology?
Why is this not education?!
We may have a look at the etymology.
Socio - Logy
The study of social behaviour of human beings
That's how Giddins has approached the question.
List down the topics which are studied in sociology.
Caste system, social changes, class problem, gender, economic behaviour, religion, environment, social environment, tradition, rituals, patriarchy, marriage, art forms.
Don't jump to big words.
List down all the topics
Start with small words, think systematically.
Reduce the list and define the topic.
All the answers will be correct anwers.
Come up with one working definition, not a final definition.
A ten minute break is your right :) Yay!!
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Study of society
Human social relations
Study of relationships
Community
Society behaviour
Religion
Economic
Language
History
Art Forms
Transformation from rural to urban
Occupation
Class
Trade
Social issues
Way of thinking
Customs, Ritual
Dressing
Food ( Gastronomy )
Money / Currency
Resoruces
Geography ( Basawat )
Governance
Power
Laws
Ways of Punishment
Education, method of accepting knowledge
PolicyLife
Lifestyle
Livelihood
Architechture
Psychology, way of thinking
Upbrining,
Modes of transport
Celebration
Communication
ICT ; Use of technology
Ways of storing information
Entertainment Modes
Hierarchy
Economic background of people
Literature
Values and Ethics
What is the difference between
Structure: Something that reproduces itself.
Behaviour
Sociology is a collective analysis.
Are animals a part of sociology?
Sociology connects people, its the study of human interactions, its a structure based study.
What is NOT sociology?
If we discover alien life in other planets, will that be sociology?
Coming up with the idea of what is not sociology...
Delimiting the area of study is difficult.
Sociology is a careful analysis of human elements.
What does psychology do then? What does History do?
Why do we know different disciplines?
Human Problems: Biological, Psychological, Existential (theology),
Social Institution Social Structure Social Behaviour
Community Economic Human social relations
Religion Language Study of relationships
Language History Society behaviour
Customs, Ritual Transformation from rural to urban Language
History Occupation History
Governance Class Art Forms
Laws Trade Social issues
Ways of Punishment Social issues Way of thinking
Education, method of accepting knowledge Customs, Ritual Dressing
Policy Dressing Food ( Gastronomy )
Money / Currency Power
Resoruces Ways of Punishment
Geography ( Basawat ) Lifestyle
Power Livelihood
Ways of Punishment
Livelihood
Architechture
How humans should live in a society?
Sociology is the study of human centric world. Its inclusive and dynamic. It looks at the entire society
Collection of things
How an individual can behave might be different in isolation and in a mob.
Society is not like a salad plate. Its like the khichdi.
Crux of the matter:
Something happens with the entire society. Its not like a salad plate.
It like putting several ingredients in the boiling pot.
Society is something different.
Sociology as analysis of underlying factors that change the society and the individual.
On the surface you have diverse reality.
You have so many movements in this world. There should be one thing defining all the movements.
There are certain underlying principles that govern the world.
NEWTON Movie Reference:
Write notes !!
Physicists can make very broad generalisations.
Even sociologists try to generalise.
Karl Marx : What governs society is the mode of production. Relationships at the workplace.
Capitalism has taken various historic forms in different countries.
In capitalism you produce for selling.
When Max Weber, makes an attempt to understand modernisation?
What is the one thing that separates modern and traditional society?
Bureaucreatization.
It makes interactions impersonal.
Examples of underlying principles.
Relationship of society and individual is reciprocating. Society influences the individual and vice-versa.
The way children are named.
There are people who break the norms.
Entire society is not just the sum total of all the individuals. Its more than, not just an aggregate of the individual.
Social fact: sui genris (unique)
What is social fact? ( Week 1 Moodle Page )
Social facts are unique.
We found a lot of subsets.
In all the subsets one thing was common - humans
Feminism
Human interactions are different form those of animals.
Eg. Language
Identity of self
Social interactionists
Interaction of individual in society
Human interactions are really different.
Social interactions
Overlap between various categories.
Structure in a society is not a physical one.
Its the behaviour of the people.
Repeatitive behaviour make
Social structure must be reproduced.
Sociology: Helps us to understand our relations with others.
Understanding the rationale of things that are happening around you.
Sociologists help us to understand the problems.
Sociological Imagination
Very Small Task:
Sociology Text Books: Chapters of that book ; You'll get to know the course.
Harlombus, orange cover.
Readings for the next class: Social Fact
Do the core readings!
Thu: 8.40 am
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Movie References
Definition of sociology
3 Idiots
Imaan Dharam
Newton
Sociology: Helps us to understand our relations with others.
Understanding the rationale of things that are happening around you.
Entire society is not just the sum total of all the individuals. Its more than, not just an aggregate of the individual.
What is not sociology?





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